"In December 2003, I wrote a script for remotely upgrading a linux system to FreeBSD. I gave it a catchy name ('Depenguinator', inspired by the 'Antichickenator' in Baldur's Gate), announced it on a FreeBSD mailing list and on Slashdot, and before long it was famous. Unfortunately, it didn't take long for changes in the layout of FreeBSD releases to make the Depenguination script stop working; so for the past three years I have been receiving emails asking me to update it to work with newer FreeBSD releases." And now it's back.
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This has nothing to do with DesktopBSD or the desktop per se,
"This is a method to convert a Linux system to FreeBSD remotely. Colin tested the script using Ubuntu 7.10. I have a few Red Hat 8.0 systems and one or more Fedora Core 4 systems that I would like to convert to FreeBSD 7.0."
http://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2008/01/from-linux-to-freebsd-with....
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From the depinguinator page:
After waiting for the system to reboot, SSH back in; FreeBSD is now running in a memory disk; so now you can slice, partition, and create file systems on the hard drive(s) and install FreeBSD however you wish.
So it doesn't actually install FreeBSD. It runs a live FreeBSD system from where you can install.
How is it different from booting the FreeBSD install cd?
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Why should the core developers maintain something they didn't write, and are not interested in. They are concerned with writing FreeBSD.
It's the same as Ubuntu not supporting Automatix, It's useful, but it's also dangerous. If I was the FreeBSd devs, I would not support a 3rd party installation script, they have their own installer to support.
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RE[4]: Broken for 3 years ...
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"Simply put your either a fool or a BSD for not adopting , using , supporting or doing something that help your project adoption or platform adoption."
Uh, I don't really see how this would really help FreeBSD that much, and they have the right to decide how they want things done.
"Thats the point precisely , bunch of irressponsible people complaining how they are always behind everyone else because of a bunch of self invented excuses ..."
I don't really hear that from the BSD's, maybe Theo, but he doesn't speak for everyone. And it is irresponsible to officially support a script that can change a computers OS remotely. I think it's pretty dangerous, and there are better ways (not easier) to build a FreeBSD system.
RE[6]: Broken for 3 years ...
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"Right , project leaders speak only for themself and everyone is jumping in to tell him he is wrong .."
Theo is only project leader for OpenBSD. Not FreeBSD, NetBSD, or any other BSD.
"BSD security is best handled by letting other's handle it , and that it stay broken ... People have trouble installing BSD but yet a tool that could help change that is best left hidden for **pseudo** security sake ?
BSD logic at work here. ( Meaning it's illogical )"
That is a ridiculous argument.
"Shock , horror , gasp !! Something that install a FreeBSD system remotely over GNU/Linux to help with replacing it that is easier !!!"
It's bad practice, if you ask me. If something goes wrong, you aren't there to fix it, and then you have no options left, you have a hosed system instead of a working one, and you aren't even there to fix it. It's a stupid idea.
"People don't believe me when I say the BSD are against having more people using BSD or make life easier for those who want to try it but don't know how."
People don't believe you because you make arguments with no real information to back them up. For people who want to use BSD in a more Linux like manner, there is DesktopBSD, PC-BSD and others.
Contrary to popular belief, a graphical installer does not magically make an OS easier to install. BSD is already quite easy to install, just as easy as Windows 2000 or XP, and adding applications is very easy. I would like to see a live-cd, and hopefully that will come.
The changes in FreeBSD has been immense since I started using it (FreeBSD 4.9) They are moving forward, and making good progress.
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Has anybody tested this thing? So does it actually work without too many errors and headaches? Anyway, I'm sure it would be wiser to just do a clean install of FreeeBSD and then maybe move some files and some configurations from Linux by hand. But Depenguinator looks like an an interesting experiment nevertheless.
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Basically this piece of software is very useful when your ISP doesn't install freebsd or charges you extra to get someone to install freebsd on your server. Or simply when some friend asks you to exorcise some tuxie at his place and you don't want to get your geek butt out of home.
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