Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 16th Feb 2008 21:16 UTC, submitted by Vincent
Xfce "By popular demand, I decided to push the limits of Xfce's customisability even further. This time, I would make it look like Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard. This task proved more difficult than trying to make it look like Windows Vista. Though I haven't achieved the same degree of perfection as I did when replicating Vista, I still think I came pretty close."
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by thavith_osn (3.28) on Sun 17th Feb 2008 00:46 UTC
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I'm very impressed Xfce can get that close, both for Vista and OS X.

I'm guessing using Xfce and the real thing is a different thing, but that doesn't take away from the fact that at least looks wise you can get very close...

Well done...

I was very impressed also.
by fasted (2.56) on Sun 17th Feb 2008 00:58 UTC
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but I ran into problems with AWN, and it generally hosed my Ubuntu install. Am going to try a fresh install of Xubuntu, some day when I'm finished trying out Fluxbuntu on Virtualbox inside of Pclinuxos!! I know, geekfactor +5, but it's great trying out all of the possibilities that operating systems can afford. It's fun though. Up next, figure out OpenSolaris networking.... read, read, read some more...

RE: I was very impressed also.
by alexandream (2.68) on Mon 18th Feb 2008 00:50 UTC in reply to "I was very impressed also."
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I just found this out yesterday (and have't had time to test yet, so I can't really recommend) and I think you might check this out, if you tried AWN.

It is a software called cairo-dock[1]. I liked it because it has no (indirect) gnome dependency (I had a problem with AWN, perhaps my distro fault, but it wanted to load a lot of gnome packages upon install).

I don't know exactly what features it has, and I believe it to be less featureful than AWN, given the development time and language of choice, but I'll give it a try as soon as I have the time.

[1] http://cairo-dock.vef.fr/

Oh, and the web page is terrible, but I saw it has both archlinux (through AUR) and ubuntu packages available, at least.

Just use Enlightenment
by sorpigal (2.84) on Sun 17th Feb 2008 12:19 UTC
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While it's nice that XFce can be customized pretty extensively, if you want total look-and-feel control why not use a system that was designed for it?

So, you can make linux look like Leopard
by aesiamun (2.6) on Sun 17th Feb 2008 20:05 UTC
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What does this get you really? Your desktop looks like the Leopard desktop, but it essentially stops there.

I always thought that the majority of linux users considered the MacOS to be inferior because of its limitations, it's lock in, it's closed sourcedness. What's the point of emulating it? I wonder the same thing about part 1 where they emulated the look of Vista.

Yes GTK is flexible, yes XFCE is light weight, yes you can make it look like anything you want, but looks aren't everything.

*Added some more, cleaned up some text*

Edited 2008-02-17 20:07 UTC

ichi Member since:
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What makes you think that anyone emulating the OSX (or Vista) look actually wants to emulate anything more than just the looks?

dbodner Member since:
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What makes you think that anyone emulating the OSX (or Vista) look actually wants to emulate anything more than just the looks?


Exactly. Just because OSX has "limitations, lock in, and closed sourcedness" doesn't mean the UI can't be attractive to some people.

And, again, the point of these series is to show how flexible Xfce is, not to say "all linux users should emulate these environments".

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What does this get you really? Your desktop looks like the Leopard desktop, but it essentially stops there. I always thought that the majority of linux users considered the MacOS to be inferior because of its limitations, it's lock in, it's closed sourcedness. What's the point of emulating it?


Well, in theory, having a similar UI would make it easier for someone who's looking to migrate from OS X to Linux -- but doesn't necessarily want to abandon all visual aspects of Leopard.

aesiamun Member since:
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I still don't understand.

Here's a completely different version of the desktop you're used to, the keystrokes aren't the same, the menus aren't remotely similar, the applications aren't going to act like what you are used to...

but it'll be easier to move to linux!

I'm all for Linux trying to gain desktop momentum, but do it in a way that sets it apart from the others, not copying the look of another OS. GNOME and KDE have their own look and feel, sure they are similarities, but they aren't all that different that people will feel lost in the UI if they have used any other WIMP interface before. Copying another OS to a point where it looks almost exactly like it (while probably breaking a lot of copyright laws where applicable).

alcibiades Member since:
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His problem was, he had done Vista. What comes next? Its not really about OSX, its about one person hacking away at xfce and needing an opponent 'worthy of his steel'. XP was too old hat. That left OSX.

aesiamun Member since:
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Ok, if it was purely a 'let me see if i can do it' thing, then ok. But people were saying that this helps converts. Like I said before, I'm all for linux progressing further into the desktop, but it has to be able to do it without blatantly copying an interface...otherwise it's no different than the korean rip offs selling Sorny batteries, or Magnabox televisions...

I appreciate and recognize the customizability of XFCE + GTK, I really do. I just wish we could see some really interesting results as opposed to Vista or Leopard rehashes.

Who needs a reason
by A30Guy (1.92) on Mon 18th Feb 2008 04:41 UTC
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Sir Edmund Hillary, when asked why he wanted to climb Mount Everest replied, "Because it's there".

Similarly, for some people who want to customise their Linux box, the answer may be "Because I can".

No other reason is required, and who are we to question them?