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The moment I saw the disgusting Vista sticker on it, I knew I dont need to have one, regardless of how the hardware performs.
Is it just me or did MS in the meantime really start to hurt hardware manufacturers by driving their sales down because of the mandated Vista on the hardware?
Well, not to be cynical, but one would assume if one went and purchased a Lenovo, they obviously like Windows. If they wanted something else, they can easily go out, download their favourite operating system - *BSD, Linux or Solaris/OpenSolaris and replace the pre-installed copy of Windows.
I really don't understand what the whining is all about; I love my Mac very much, but if all the software I wanted was on a non-Microsoft platform, I'd purchase the lenovo instantly. There are people who don't mind Windows Vista, and I don't know why people have come up with the doom and gloom just because of a rocky start when it was first released.
This is a good example of why I would probably buy a Lenovo laptop if I had to buy one. The structure does not emphasize fashionable design over sturdiness and usability. X300 is very portable at 13.3", yet has a good 1440×900 display. It has good battery life, and has both a trackpoint and a trackpad which is good as many people, including me, prefer trackpoint. Edited 2008-03-14 22:46 UTC
No, that's the scroll key. Holding it down and moving the eraser head scrolls the document you're on (or webpage). I love it!
Ah, god bless the trackpoint, I don't know what I'd do without them (be very clumsy I guess.) It's good to see Lenovo still making cool Thinkpads.
It does seem that this should be an extra-thin T-series rather than an X-series though - footprint wise it seems to be about the same as my old T30. I find that the smaller the footprint the less fragile laptops seem, so you're more inclined to use them out-and-about (and they fit into a smaller bag). I'd love an X61 for this reason, but since I'm poor I'm more likely to end up with an Eee or something, touchpad be damned.
Used x40 Thinkpads on ebay go for about the same amount as a Eee. There are also stores online that specialize in used/older laptops - usually a bit more expensive than what you can find on ebay, but less risky (got mine "factory-refurbished" from a place called "thinkpadworld").
Bah, that should be "an Eee." Can't believe I missed that - not only does the next word *start* with a vowel, it's nothing *but* vowels.
Nice to see something else, but especially since this machine has a higher density display, more USB ports, and inbuilt EV-DO. The last bit would save me another USB port.
I don't really care for an ultra-light or ultra-portable machine but this one is certainly appealing. The processor vs. battery tradeoff is the only thing that would bother me. You can carry another battery (with restrictions, right?) but you can't make the processor go faster.
If MacBook Air is selling out, the X300 should trounce it, except with the style-conscious.
Once this thing gets out, it's going to spread like cancer amongst all the executive uppity-mucky-mucks in my company. Not that I'm complaining, because if the performance is there, I probably wouldn't mind having one too. Also, it would be a lot easier to administrate if we had a bunch of people using, not just the handful we have running on X60s and X61s now. That way, it wouldn't be such an oddball if I have to work on one.
Keep it up, Lenovo, I hope you keep the quality and service the same like it was from IBM. I'd hate to have to deal with HP.
I don't normally post messages unless 1) I'm trolling 2) I feel I have something important to contribute to the topic.
X300 is giving Lenovo good publicity - I think they deserve it. Many people for unknown reason believe Lenovo has trashed the Thinkpad models, they have no idea what they're talking about. If they do have a valid reason to trash Lenovo, it's related to customer service or receiving dead parts on delivery (blank screen, screwed up disk). But I have never had a problem with them.
I've bought an old T30 and it was built like a tank. I just bought a t60p, it is the best laptop I've owned...so far. I switched from a Macbook Pro and I'm not planning to go back to a Mac. Without Thinkpads I would still be on a Mac.
I just want to tell you all Thinkpads simply kicks @ss.
I'm under the impression that the X300 has no docking station connector. I hope, I'm wrong.
This is an overpriced designer laptop created for business types who have more money than brains. People who think something is better because it costs more. I can get a laptop from Tigerdirect or even an electronics store that does everything this one does for a fraction of its cost. Sure, people will point out that my warranty isn't as good or the reliability isn't on par blah blah blah. It's a computer folks; it's obsolete the minute you purchase it. The bottom line is that I don't need a Bentley where a Chevy will do just fine.
It's 2008, why does Thinkpads still have the same _horrible_ design as in 1995?
I know, design isn't the most important aspect of a laptop, but that doesn't mean it should be completely ignored.
It's 2008, why does Thinkpads still have the same _horrible_ design as in 1995?
Its the same color scheme and keyboard design, other than that they are very different machines than in 1995.
I personally love the look and sturdy build of the machines. You know a thinkpad when you see one and you never have to worry that the latest 'rev' of the hardware has become cheap or the keyboard on your new laptop has been totally redesigned and cheapened up.
While different designs from Lenovo would be welcome on new models, I hope they never change the basics of the thinkpad.
Although personally I think these notebooks look quite stylish, you may have a point. I have a woman friend who is looking for a suitable but not too big laptop. So I emailed her a link to this review and said that something like this good be suitable laptop if she can afford the price. The reply: she complained, maybe partly as a joke but still..., that the laptop is too dark and dull-looking to suit her tastes... Well, I wouldn't have guessed that, and like I said, I would like the current looks. But maybe Lenovo could indeed try to put more effort also into the aesthetic design of their laptops, so that all the models wouldn't have the same old industrial black/dark gray looks and there would be more design choices too.
I don't recall the specific models (and it looks like the Lenovo online store is down), but I believe Lenovo has already started doing that. IIRC some of the newer consumer-oriented models that Lenovo has introduced (aka, models that didn't exist in the IBM days) are marginally "flashier". But still fairly minimalist, compared to laptops from Apple or Sony.
Do you mean design, or aesthestics? If you mean the design, I assure you that it *has* indeed changed over the years - speaking as the former owner of a Thinkpad 560x, and the current owner of a x30.
If you mean aesthetics, it's not *trying* to be beautiful, it's not designed for people who see their laptop as a way to attract the opposite sex at Starbucks.
I'd argue that, aesthetically, Thinkpads at least succeed at being *not ugly* (unlike many Dell/HP/Acer laptops, that look as if the designers had to be restrained from adding a spoiler & spinners). Edited 2008-03-15 20:10 UTC
In case anyone actually wonders where the original concept of the thinkpad design came from it was based on the Japanese Bento box.
From a brand recognition standpoint it is probably the most recognizable design out right now for laptops. While I would not call the thinkpad stylish, it is functional and neither guady or ugly. It is a solid design and look that has lasted longer than any other computer design I am aware of.
It's looking the same as 1995.
Why isn't it trying to be beautiful? Having style is not all about attracting the other sex you know.
Let me assure you, the Thinkpad is ugly. It might look "not ugly" to some, but nowawadays non-geeks use computers as well.
Sounds harsh, but it's the truth. Have you seen all the inconsistencies on the outer shell of these laptops? It has bumps all over, stuff pointing out. I mean, there are plenty of alternatives that have the same specifications and look much better.
Also, did you ever actually use a Thinkpad? Even today, the Lenovo laptops are so loaded to the brink with crap that it is almost not useable. It takes 30 minutes to remove all the unnecessary software that's on there.
These laptops just seem to appeal to businesses that signed a deal with IBM 10 years ago and are scared to death of change.
I have a Thinkpad 600 (from 1999) and a Macbook. Both are very similar in size and weight. The Macbook is completely white, while the IBM is completely black, but both are simply beautiful.
Many of the clones to fine too, though. I have also owned an Acer Ferrari 3000, and while it's a pretty good looking laptop, it looks like a device will a limited life-span. Hell, it already has had several revisions, so that probably means a lot of people didn't like the looks that much. Oh and I had to bring it in for repairs, twice, too.
The Thinkpad on the other hand is indestructible and timeless. In fact, It's still working! I expect the Macbook to last a long time too. Apple and IBM. The rest are just cheap clones, copying the originals.
My next "PC laptop" will be a Thinkpad again. No doubt about that. At first I was disappointed when IBM handed over the Thinkpad line to Lenovo, but so far they seem to be doing fine.
As i said before, i have had from a 701C, to a Z61. They are very similar, black, with a trackpoint (the best pointing device var none), and a screen, and that is about it.
I also have a macbook. A macbook is no more flashier than a ThinkPad.
And i rather have the minimalist looks of the ThinkPads/Macbooks, than the horrible HPs that look like a discotecke where everything has a light, etc.