Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 25th Mar 2008 22:29 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives I have no idea how I missed it (seriously) but read this: "It's been almost one year since we announced our conversations with ACCESS Co. Ltd. targeted at releasing legacy BeOS related documents, and today last week we were happy to inform the community that this project has finally arrived to a happy conclusion: the BeBook and all the Be Newsletters are now available online. As an emerging open source project, documentation for Haiku is still hard to come by; and while our Documentation Team works on creating Haiku-specific material, the BeBook and the Be Newsletters will provide valuable reference material for all developers, new and experienced alike."
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Great news
by JPisini on Tue 25th Mar 2008 22:51 UTC
JPisini
Member since:
2006-01-24

This is great thanks to everyone that made this possible.

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v anyone?
by cozby on Wed 26th Mar 2008 03:50 UTC
RE: anyone?
by 10wattmindtrip on Wed 26th Mar 2008 04:48 UTC in reply to "anyone?"
10wattmindtrip Member since:
2007-04-01

Trick question?

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RE[2]: anyone?
by umccullough on Wed 26th Mar 2008 06:47 UTC in reply to "RE: anyone?"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Nope - apparently just ignorant bastard.

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RE: anyone?
by Morgan on Wed 26th Mar 2008 06:27 UTC in reply to "anyone?"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Have you been on OSNews long? BeOS (and Haiku) news has always been given importance here, and rightly so. I have no idea what your pet OS is, but I'm damn sure not going to slam it just to get a reaction, like you seem to be doing here. Please do us all a favor and crawl back under your bridge.

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RE: anyone?
by rcsteiner on Wed 26th Mar 2008 22:05 UTC in reply to "anyone?"
rcsteiner Member since:
2005-07-12

I still have a BeOS 5 Pro installation that I boot into every once in a while.

Then again, I also have an OS/2 box I use fulltime and I like Apple ][ games via Appler, so...

Seriously, though. If you can install it, it's still a nice OS. I managed to get a copy of Firefox 2.0.12 for it, *and* I managed to install it and get it to run, so the platform can't be all bad.

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Syphadias
Member since:
2008-02-16

Programming the Be Operating System
Writing Programs for the Be Operating System

By Dan Parks Sydow
July 1999

Has also became Freeware:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/beosprog/book/

I run Be every day.

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Nice but...
by jeanmarc on Wed 26th Mar 2008 08:27 UTC
jeanmarc
Member since:
2005-07-06

Nice gift from Access but since those documents are released as legacy reference with "No derivatives" ,we can't modify them for the upcoming Haiku evolutions...

Edited 2008-03-26 08:38 UTC

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RE: Nice but...
by SReilly on Wed 26th Mar 2008 08:52 UTC in reply to "Nice but..."
SReilly Member since:
2006-12-28

This might sound funny, but I think it's a great idea to just release the docs as reference material only.

In the future, Access may want to sell off the BeOS IP it purchased to another company, and who is to say what that company would wish to do with such property?

This way, Haiku continues on to make a clean room reimplementation of the BeOS with no chance of a law suite.

Am I making sense?

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RE[2]: Nice but...
by Treza on Wed 26th Mar 2008 10:26 UTC in reply to "RE: Nice but..."
Treza Member since:
2006-01-11

It's theorically true, but I think the BeOS IP value is nowadays pretty much equal to zero.

In addition, as Haiku is BSD-style licenced, a commercial variant of Haiku could be possible.
(Access could actually merge sourcecodes and sell that as BeOS but the task is probably immense for a microscopic business case...)

(BTW, I have a real paper BeBook, standing on a shelf neareby !)

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RE[3]: Nice but...
by SReilly on Wed 26th Mar 2008 15:55 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Nice but..."
SReilly Member since:
2006-12-28

It's theorically true, but I think the BeOS IP value is nowadays pretty much equal to zero.

I don't agree. Although I understand that it seems that way, all you need to take are two prime examples of where BeOS got it right, and where the rest of the industry is still playing catch up. Parallel processing and the BFS.

In addition, as Haiku is BSD-style licenced, a commercial variant of Haiku could be possible.
(Access could actually merge sourcecodes and sell that as BeOS but the task is probably immense for a microscopic business case...)

I never thought of it that way, well said. Although I don't think Access is ever going to try that, who knows what might happen in the future? would be a pretty nasty thing to try on the Haiku devs though.

(BTW, I have a real paper BeBook, standing on a shelf neareby !)

Oh, man! I'm green with envy! Gonna have a look on eBay, see if I can pick one up!

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RE[4]: Nice but...
by memson on Wed 26th Mar 2008 19:53 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Nice but..."
memson Member since:
2006-01-01

If we are flexing our BeOS book collections, I have the Be Developer's guide (aka the Be book), Be advanced topics, Programming thr Be operating system, The BeOS bible, Practicle file system design (deals with bfs design) and Koch Media BeOS user guide. Also have a Gobe productive manual too ;-)

Edited 2008-03-26 20:05 UTC

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RE[4]: Nice but...
by Lefty on Thu 27th Mar 2008 21:02 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Nice but..."
Lefty Member since:
2007-04-05

I think it's a pretty safe bet that ACCESS is not going to be bringing out a competitor to Haiku. We've got other things to do, we're busy, busy, busy.

David "Lefty" Schlesinger
Director, Open Source Technologies
ACCESS Co., Ltd.

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RE[5]: Nice but...
by SReilly on Fri 28th Mar 2008 08:08 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Nice but..."
SReilly Member since:
2006-12-28

Thanks for answering, puts my mind at ease! :-)

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I have the BeOS Bible...
by Googol on Wed 26th Mar 2008 12:00 UTC
Googol
Member since:
2006-11-24

really cool book, also a lot of Be history in there....

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Bah
by marcof on Wed 26th Mar 2008 12:45 UTC
marcof
Member since:
2005-08-02

Just as I thought I could get lots of cash for pristine condition BeOS Bible and Programming the BeOS Operating system books they get opensourced.... humbug! ;)

Edited 2008-03-26 12:45 UTC

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Be Bible
by Syphadias on Fri 28th Mar 2008 05:51 UTC
Syphadias
Member since:
2008-02-16

Still got my Be Bible and the little book that came with BeOS 5 Pro. As fate would have it, the to layer of my Be CD peeled back, but it's too old for this computer anyhow, I'm just happy I still have my books!

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