Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 13th Apr 2008 16:29 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Every now and then, a computer comes along that makes a mark, that sets a trend, or that simply stuns you - but not because of its internals, its processor or its software, but because of its appearance. Through the history of computing, there have been a number of computers that were actually designed to appeal not just because of raw technology alone, but also because of stunning looks. Read on for a countdown of my ten most beautiful computers.
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Some of my picks
by swamp boy (3) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 17:48 UTC
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SGI Indigo - http://www.sgizone.net/indigo/
NeXT Station instead of NeXT Cube
IBM RS/6000 workstation instead of PS/2 Model 50
Cray supercomputer
Apple iMac (current models)

RE: Some of my picks
by hollovoid (2) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 20:40 UTC in reply to "Some of my picks"
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I second the Cray supercomputers, they were beautifully designed, and so powerful even the geekiest of us would sweat in its presence.I used to request info packets as a young'n from cray, under the alias of "lynsing medical research center" so they would even send it. ahhh those were the days ;)

Enjoyable
by dado (4.58) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 17:54 UTC
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At first, judging by title, I thought this is going to be a "These are ten Apple computers I really like" but I'm happy to see at least some diversity. ;)

In my book, hardware design is a non-issue, it can literally be wrapped in tinfoil for all I care, how it performs is key for me. That must be why I never used and probably will never use an Apple product. ;)

RE: Enjoyable
by zztaz (4) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 18:00 UTC in reply to "Enjoyable"
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The legacy of the IBM PS/2 lives on in the glorious Model M keyboard, which I still use.

RE[2]: Enjoyable
by chemical_scum (2.96) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 23:18 UTC in reply to "RE: Enjoyable"
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The legacy of the IBM PS/2 lives on in the glorious Model M keyboard, which I still use.


I am too am typing this from my IBM model M PS/2 keyboard. It is 19 years old.

I bought with an IBM PS/2 30/286 when I was a grad student and got the student discount. I regretted not hanging on till a 386 system got into my price range. It came with PC-DOS 4.0 which was later upgraded to Win 3.1 on MSDOS 6. Some parts were well built others were not as good the hard drive bjorked in less than a year, fortunately still in warranty. The monitor lasted seven years and the system was still running after nine years, when I upgraded to a cheap secondhand 486.

The keyboard however lasts forever being now on its fifth system.

RE[3]: Enjoyable
by Doc Pain (2.92) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 07:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Enjoyable"
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I am too am typing this from my IBM model M PS/2 keyboard. It is 19 years old. [...] The keyboard however lasts forever being now on its fifth system.


Use it well, you'll never be able to get a better one. I'm still using some of them and always will. :-)

RE[2]: Enjoyable
by Mikaku (1.4) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 07:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Enjoyable"
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Yeah, I collected a lot of them and I'm using them in practically all the computers I have at home and at office.

I really love those original IBM keyboards with so special key touch.

ThinkPads!
by Flatland_Spider (2.96) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 18:10 UTC
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ThinkPads would be on my most beautiful computer list. They're beautiful the way a purpose built tool is beautiful and memorable the way Darth Vader is memorable.

RE: ThinkPads!
by h3rman (3.76) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:36 UTC in reply to "ThinkPads!"
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ThinkPads would be on my most beautiful computer list. They're beautiful the way a purpose built tool is beautiful and memorable the way Darth Vader is memorable.


Absolutely.
I'm by no means an IBM fan, but the Thinkpads, especially the X-series, are simply amazing examples of beautiful ugliness - and I mean that last noun in a good way.

I'm afraid only people that have actually used/owned a Thinkpad will be able to appreciate that. The fact that you cannot usually see Thinkpads in stores on shelves plays a role in that, I guess.

A big mistake Thom, and I have no idea why you didn't consult me ;) is to include the Macbook Air, I was very unimpressed having seen it here last week. Plus, its design is just way too fresh to be able to judge it.

iBooks, especially the later 12" models, beat the crap out of the McB Air in the looks department; as a matter of fact, Apple is not going to produce a nicer laptop in the next decade. It's not as light, but at least it has a real keyboard that says, type me!

So Thom, get the hell out of your blogging chair, get yourself a Thinkpad at eBay and repair this missed opportunity. ;)

RE[2]: ThinkPads!
by xk2600 (3.11) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 13:30 UTC in reply to "RE: ThinkPads!"
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I agree. Though I would not call necissarily use the world ugly. The Thinkpad is simply a more industrial design. Where as the Mac is more of a Bukakki of modern deco. Both are stunning examples of art and engineering intertwined. I personally am not a big fan of where the Apple laptop line is heading. The old PowerBooks, and the Titanium were Art at its finest. The Air... more like a flat egg. I think Apple hired the same guys who push VW. Just because it screams different doesn't mean its pretty. And while the air is smooth and thin, it's rather plain in appearance. Apple needs to bring out the beast in their boxes. I want something that a man who has worked his entire life to accumulate would want to own. It's what I expect from them. IF they want to build the Lamborgini of laptops, don't design it like a V-Dub.

RE[3]: ThinkPads!
by h3rman (3.76) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 14:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: ThinkPads!"
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I agree. Though I would not call necissarily use the world ugly. The Thinkpad is simply a more industrial design.


True, I wanted to use the word ugly in a good way, which I guess is a bit hard in modern English. There was (is?) a Dutch architect though who advocated "beautiful ugliness" in architecture. ;)

Where as the Mac is more of a Bukakki of modern deco. Both are stunning examples of art and engineering intertwined. I personally am not a big fan of where the Apple laptop line is heading. The old PowerBooks, and the Titanium were Art at its finest.


Yeah I was wondering if I was the only one who thought the Macbooks are a step back compared to the Powerbooks and iBooks.
I liked the 12" Powerbook best but given absence of money, got mslf an iBook. Amazing machine.
The Macbooks are relatively cheap-looking, with their bright screen and awful keyboard. Hell, there are Sony Vaios that look better.

Okay I admit my opinion is sort of completely irrelevant.
But as you said, the direction Apple's design is heading, I would not buy any Apple stuff again. There's more explicit bling now, more form over function. I mean, you just don't toss a great keyboard like the iBook's out of the Cupertino window. Why not improve it and make it a classic like the Thinkpad's, in stead of producing something that looks "new" but is.. crap.
I mean, does Apple remember that in spite of the popularity of mouse clicking and "multitouch" goodness, some people actually type?

Plus, Apple's PC design (I'm not into the ipod/phone dep.) has become less playful and more.. "serious". As in, serious business, maybe. That's a bad sign in design, believe me. Like the new iMacs, they look a lot more "don't touch me" than the funny white plastic types.

The Air... more like a flat egg. I think Apple hired the same guys who push VW. Just because it screams different doesn't mean its pretty. And while the air is smooth and thin, it's rather plain in appearance.


Agreed.
BTW hey Apple fans, this is free speech y'all. ;)

RE[4]: ThinkPads!
by daneilwsmithee (1) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 14:54 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: ThinkPads!"
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I owned an iBook and a new MacBook. The MacBook's keyboard blows away the iBook's in every way. The MacBook's keyboard is the best laptop keyboard I have ever used and I've had Dell, Thinkpads, HP, and Toshiba's. The iBook's keyboard was horrible. Half the time my finger would catch on the key above the one I was hitting causing the keys to pop off!!

RE: ThinkPads!
by unoengborg (4.72) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 20:21 UTC in reply to "ThinkPads!"
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Yes, Thinkpads are excellent examples of the design rule that, form should follow function. E.g. look at the lid that closes very tightly and make the construction more rigid when closed. On off buttons is placed at places where you are unlikely to press them by mistake, not like the HP I use for work, that I turn off by mistake on a regular basis.

The Cube
by Boldie (2.2) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 18:21 UTC
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I brought a Mac Cube for 25 euros from my work place, thought it would be a nice fileserver etc. It only draws 35 watts when idle and is fan less. The show stopper was that it is not "noise less", the hard drive makes a whining sound. Now it is sitting at the top of a shelf in my living room just looking good (?).

I'm thinking about changing the drive to a silent one, maybe a flash-based. Has anyone tried that?

RE: The Cube
by Kroc (5.24) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:11 UTC in reply to "The Cube"
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Asking if "someone has tried that" about a Cube is almost a silly question. There is /nothing/ that hasn't been tried on a Cube; "can you make it into an aquarium?" included. ;)

RE[2]: The Cube
by Boldie (2.2) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 20:07 UTC in reply to "RE: The Cube"
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It is a silly question! But a lot of the mods are with "old" hardware. I'm just lazy and want to have a quick fix! :-) I'll give it an other honest google-session.

I think I've seen the aquarium, it is excellent! :-)
(I think I also seen a toilet paper dispenser, but that is just plain wrong!)

RE[2]: The Cube
by Doc Pain (2.92) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 07:25 UTC in reply to "RE: The Cube"
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Asking if "someone has tried that" about a Cube is almost a silly question. There is /nothing/ that hasn't been tried on a Cube; "can you make it into an aquarium?" included. ;)


Well, even the SGI Octane has been modded into an audio system, as far as I remember, called the "Roctane". By the way, the "old" Octane (predecessor of the O2 mentioned in the article) looks great, too. Well, has SGI ever built any boring looking systems? :-)

Ah, the IBM machines of old...
by umccullough (3.96) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 18:46 UTC
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The thing that stands out from the IBM machines of that era was the complete screwless FRU (field-replaceable-unit) nature of the machines.

Nearly everything in the machine could be pulled and replaced without a screwdriver. In some cases, there was even a little plastic removal tool clipped into place inside the case for popping out plastic pins or whatever.

I always loved that.

Comment by Luminair
by Luminair (3.04) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 18:53 UTC
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The reason the O2 is/was so appreciated is that it was the first computer that most people saw that wasn't a gray box.

And the choice for #1 is a lol and a half

If these are the best...
by Michael (4.12) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:01 UTC
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Just goes to show what hideously ugly things computers are.

Oh my...
by greenie (2.25) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:05 UTC
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BeBox - beautiful? Oh dear.

Where's SE/30? Or IIc Plus? TRS80-III? Cray 1? PDP-8? Xserve?

This is serious business ;)

RE: Oh my...
by Lobotomik (4.36) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 22:49 UTC in reply to "Oh my..."
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The IIc with its monitor was definitely striking.

most beautiful ?
by milleoiseaux (1.83) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:09 UTC
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Nice article
by rhyder (3.36) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:11 UTC
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Not all of the standards that IBM attempted to introduce with the PS/2 architecture were enduring. The PS/2 mouse and keyboard connectors had quite a long life, but the PS/2 also tried to introduce a non standard case and the MCA expansion architecture. They also introduced a unique display standard that was a superset of VGA. I seem to remember that some of the line even had ESDI hard drives.

For the laptop, I would have thought you'd have gone for the iBook.

It might seem like heressy to say this on OSNEWS, but I've never really liked the look of the BeBox. Probably because it looks like most of my computers in that it's mis-matched.

Another nice looking and forward thinking design was that of the Acorn RISC PC. It was a fanless and screwless plastic case. It was also extensible, through the addition of extra "slices". You could have up to four slices in order to build a cube, if you needed to.

It also came with a set of clips so that you could stand it on its side as a tower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Acorn_Risc_PC_600.jpg

Also, how could have missed off the one-box classic macs? ;-)

RE: Nice article
by DigitalAxis (2.6) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 22:11 UTC in reply to "Nice article"
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Seconding that RiscPC (or the Amiga "Walker" design), with the expandable case. THAT is sheer genius. Get enough of those together and yeah, you've got a tower... but you can because they all slot on top of each other.

I dunno, I'm also a fan of those old all-in-keyboard design computers, particularly the ones with more than just a keyboard on the top (disk drive, as in the C65, some SORD computers with two built-in 5 1/4"...)

If I had the money, time and know-how I'd love to put together (or gut and make) a modern system like those, except now the floppy would be a DVD-RW DL, and the cartridge slots would be Compactflash or SD...

RE: Nice article
by AmigaRobbo (1.32) on Tue 15th Apr 2008 21:12 UTC in reply to "Nice article"
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Acorn A600 had fans, and quite noisy they are too..

You left out...
by jchildrose (1.53) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:12 UTC
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... the Atari 600/800/1200/1400 XL series. These things were gorgeous and futuristic-looking when they were released, as well as being awesomely fun to program for.

RE
by Kroc (5.24) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:21 UTC
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C64c.

I love the "veet" sound you could make across the ridges on the back.

Comment by transputer_guy
by transputer_guy (3.72) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:32 UTC
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Easy, BeBox, SGI Indigo, NeXT stations, the Cray Supercomputers (round bench seat) in no special order.

Of course many of the Macs all the way back to 84. The MacII was my favorite of the day, 6 slots to expansion heaven if you had the money and very solid industrial engineering.

I might even add the BBC2 models, all in one box and beautiful for its day even on the software side. Wouldn't mind seeing that format again.

By definition almost all todays PC cases are ugly, esp the gaming cases coming out of Taiwan, they reek of teenage hormones. Now if some of the PC makers would just copy Apple style, the situation might improve.

I have to conclude that good looking computers tend to be the least expandable on the inside, usually locked out. Once you expand with lots of external USB widgets, they don't look so cool anymore.

PowerMac G4 Cube
by Mellin (2.84) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:54 UTC
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Kleenex box ;)

iMac - BeBox
by PowerMacX (3.8) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:55 UTC
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I think the current gen iMac should have been on that list:
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9475/imacalumyy1.jpg

OTOH, I think the BeBox *didn't* deserve to be there! I mean, sure it is an important/significant model in computing/OS history but this is the "The Ten Most *Beautiful* Computers" and the Be-box looks as ugly as any cheap random case.

Edited 2008-04-13 19:55 UTC

RE: iMac - BeBox
by Thom_Holwerda (Staff) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 19:58 UTC in reply to "iMac - BeBox"
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OTOH, I think the BeBox *didn't* deserve to be there! I mean, sure it is an important/significant model in computing/OS history but this is the "The Ten Most *Beautiful* Computers" and the Be-box looks as ugly as any cheap random case.


That's just your opinion, which is just as worthless as my opinion ;) .

This wasn't just the "The Ten Most *Beautiful* Computers" list. It was my "The Ten Most *Beautiful* Computers" list. Which is quite different.

RE[2]: iMac - BeBox
by PowerMacX (3.8) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 20:08 UTC in reply to "RE: iMac - BeBox"
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That's just your opinion, which is just as worthless as my opinion ;) .


Just as worthy ;)

And you are right, you did mention "Read on for a countdown of my ten most beautiful computers." in the intro, I was just answering with the title of the article in mind.

Mac Mini
by Morgan (3.2) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 20:18 UTC
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I know Thom considers the Mac Mini to be ugly, as he said in the G4 Cube entry in the article, but I don't see how it's much different from the Cube in overall design. Slot loading, very small footprint, (nearly) silent, with rounded corners and a smooth overall appearance. The only thing I ever found "ugly" about it was video performance.

To each his own I guess.

RE: Mac Mini
by hobgoblin (2.36) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 23:34 UTC in reply to "Mac Mini"
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i think the cube was simpler to disassemble...

RE[2]: Mac Mini
by Morgan (3.2) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 03:24 UTC in reply to "RE: Mac Mini"
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I'm sure it was, I took apart my old G4 Mini not long after I got it to up the RAM and it was a very touchy procedure. I didn't like the idea of shoving two metal putty knives into a $600 computer, but I did it right and didn't break anything. I wouldn't want to do it again though; even my eMac was easier to upgrade, and I had to take it halfway apart to add a bigger hard drive.

RE[3]: Mac Mini
by hobgoblin (2.36) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 05:13 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Mac Mini"
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as on look at it, each iteration of a apple product seems to be less and less modification friendly.

about the only product of theirs that seems designed with ease of modification seems to be the mac pro...

but then im biased as i have not bought a pre-built system in ages...

ugh, just looked at the apple page and while the mac pro is more after market upgradeable then other apple products it still use what appears to be a very unusual motherboard and drive attachment system...

Edited 2008-04-14 05:22 UTC

RE[4]: Mac Mini
by eggs (2.48) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 05:22 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Mac Mini"
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It was very easy to upgrade the RAM and hard disk in my Macbook, both are accessible through the battery area. Although I had to buy a Torx screwdriver to get the sled off the hard drive, which was a pain.

Comment by ZBrando
by ZBrando (1.67) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 20:30 UTC
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Where are the Apple LC and Classic?

RE: Comment by ZBrando
by siraf72 (1.44) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 20:41 UTC in reply to "Comment by ZBrando"
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I had an LCII , now THAT was a pizza box , beautiful.. Alas the 16mhz it came with sucked biggens.

pdp-11
by Geoff Gigg (2.2) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 20:32 UTC
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Someone mentioned pdp-8. It was nice. I think DEC reached the peak of that line's clean design, inside and out, with the pdp-11. Here's a nice picture:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Pdp-11-40.jpg

Have to second the Cray. Kept expecting that to be #1. Couldn't believe that was left off.

RE: pdp-11
by rhyder (3.36) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 21:08 UTC in reply to "pdp-11"
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That PDP-11 looks like the kind of computer you see in 1960s sci-fi/spy TV shows. If I had to do battle with one, I'd ask a challenging philosophical question to make it explode.

RE[2]: pdp-11
by hhas (3.31) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 21:36 UTC in reply to "RE: pdp-11"
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Continuing the theme of grand old boxen, let's have some love for Olivetti's 1960s industrial design:

Ettore Sottsass's ELEA 9003:

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3249/expladonationettoresottsass...

Mario Bellini's TCV 250 terminal:

http://www.moma.org/images/collection/FullSizes/00043077.jpg

RE[3]: pdp-11
by rhyder (3.36) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 23:53 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: pdp-11"
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> Mario Bellini's TCV 250 terminal:

My sense of scale failed me for a moment there and I thought "hmmm... computerised coffee maker."

RE[3]: pdp-11
by Doc Pain (2.92) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 08:42 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: pdp-11"
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RE: pdp-11
by hobgoblin (2.36) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 23:35 UTC in reply to "pdp-11"
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now thats a computer! ;)

RE: pdp-11
by sbergman27 (4.64) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 00:46 UTC in reply to "pdp-11"
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MAC SE/SE30 !!
by siraf72 (1.44) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 20:39 UTC
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C'mon!

Joke?
by Ruahine (1.5) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 20:48 UTC
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Is this serious?
I was certain it must have been a big joke, but then I saw the Cube at the end and thought... hmmmm.... maybe this guy just has absolutely bizarre taste.
But, if this was a serious article, then it is flawed. It misses out the best designed computer ever... the one I'm writing this on right now:
G4 iMac

Comment by dmck
by dmck (2) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 21:18 UTC
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The RiscPC was definately a classic, not many computers were built with their own Pizza ovens.

http://www.d1.dion.ne.jp/~r_high/memorial/rocketship.html

RE: Comment by dmck
by hobgoblin (2.36) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 23:39 UTC in reply to "Comment by dmck"
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whiskey tango foxtrot?!

i guess the closest one come today is liquid cooling and high powered hardware in a flawed casemod.

anyone for scrambled eggs straight of the cpu? ;)

Discredited list
by tonymus (2.44) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 21:22 UTC
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Any list about good looking computers that does not have the Commodore Amiga 1000 on it should be automatically discredited.

The A1000 was the finest looking computer released up to that date. Why other manufacturers never embraced the keyboard garage is beyond me.

Apple has since took the design ball and ran with it (to their credit), although the Dell XPS is an interesting looking computer...

RE: Discredited list
by Thom_Holwerda (Staff) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 21:26 UTC in reply to "Discredited list"
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Any list about good looking computers that does not have the Commodore Amiga 1000 on it should be automatically discredited.

The A1000 was the finest looking computer released up to that date. Why other manufacturers never embraced the keyboard garage is beyond me.

Apple has since took the design ball and ran with it (to their credit), although the Dell XPS is an interesting looking computer...


Any person's opinion should be automatically discredited when they find the Dell XPS beautiful ;) .

RE[2]: Discredited list
by xk2600 (3.11) on Mon 14th Apr 2008 13:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Discredited list"
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Any person's opinion should be automatically discredited when they find the Dell XPS beautiful ;) .

Wooot.

Yay for PS2
by jbit (2.5) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 22:06 UTC
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Nice to see the PS2 in that list, it's a very nice looking system... It's development kit counterpart (the T10k) looks equally cool too, which is rare.

I think the Sharp X68000 ( http://www.h5.dion.ne.jp/~xn68000/Computing/Oldies/X68000/index.htm... ) is another nice looking computer which is rarely mentioned ;)

RE: Yay for PS2
by hobgoblin (2.36) on Sun 13th Apr 2008 23:40 UTC in reply to "Yay for PS2"
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interesting case, but that mouse reminds me of the "puck"...