Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th May 2008 21:29 UTC, submitted by irbis
AMD AMD had a bit of a setback with their Barcelona server processor, the company seems to have moved on. During a conference call today, the company laid out its plans for the server space for the coming years, putting 6 and 12 core processors on the horizon.
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interesting
by broken_symlink on Wed 7th May 2008 23:20 UTC
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2005-07-06

Nvidia is still going to make chipsets for amd, even after they bought ati? I thought they would stop, but maybe I am a bit naive.

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RE: interesting
by stabbyjones on Thu 8th May 2008 00:31 UTC in reply to "interesting"
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2008-04-15

There's no point in letting someone else take your business voluntarily.

If i was Nvidia i'd be quite willing to keep making and selling chipsets as long as AMD wanted them.

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RE: interesting
by ShadesFox on Thu 8th May 2008 00:36 UTC in reply to "interesting"
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2006-10-01

Intel makes graphics chips too. Come to think of it, Nvidia is the only major graphics chip producer that does not also make x86 processors...

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RE[2]: interesting
by FunkyELF on Thu 8th May 2008 21:08 UTC in reply to "RE: interesting"
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2006-07-26

Intel makes graphics chips too. Come to think of it, Nvidia is the only major graphics chip producer that does not also make x86 processors...


Sounds like the start of a great rumor!

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RE: interesting
by tyrione on Thu 8th May 2008 01:49 UTC in reply to "interesting"
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2005-11-21

Nvidia is still going to make chipsets for amd, even after they bought ati? I thought they would stop, but maybe I am a bit naive.


Yes.

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RE: interesting
by Soulbender on Thu 8th May 2008 03:04 UTC in reply to "interesting"
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2005-08-18

As long as AMD wants to buy them nVidia is going to sell them chipsets. It would be foolish to stop just because AMD has their own graphics division. In fact, it's almost a feather in the hat for nVidia. They're selling chipsets to the owner of their biggest competitor.

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RE[2]: interesting
by Wes Felter on Thu 8th May 2008 19:38 UTC in reply to "RE: interesting"
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2005-11-15

AMD doesn't buy Nvidia's chipsets; system/mobo vendors buy them. So I'd say Nvidia should keep making chipsets as long as their customers want them. Letting your competitor decide what products you make generally isn't a good idea.

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of course
by elanthis on Thu 8th May 2008 00:40 UTC
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2007-02-17

Why the hell would NVIDIA stop? That would be excellent business sense. "Despite what our customers - the people who throw money at us - may want, we're going to give AMD the finger and stop making chipsets for them. So THERE!"

Are you going to assume that NVIDIA will stop making chipsets for Intel chips because (gasp!) Intel makes their own chipsets and (double gasp!) even makes fairly competent graphics hardware?

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RE: of course
by BrendaEM on Fri 9th May 2008 04:40 UTC in reply to "of course"
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2005-11-23

Intel's graphic chips are the lowest common denominator, crap.

Because Intel can make 45nm parts, they could be a formidable competitor to Nvidia, but up to this point, they make lousy graphic chips, for the uninformed masses.

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How is nvidia selling to AMD???
by bimbo on Thu 8th May 2008 07:10 UTC
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2006-05-09

Maybe I'm confused but I doubt AMD buys any chipsets from Nvidia, really.

Motherboard makers buy them and build motherboards, AMD has little to say about this (maybe they have some patents on it which could be used to shut it down though).

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AMD Roadmap
by poohgee on Thu 8th May 2008 12:07 UTC
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2005-08-13

Nothing big & exciting - but considering they are trying to survive (also mentioned in the AMD v Intel court cases on ars technica) it will hopefully be enough to gather strength i.e. money again .

I must say I haven't read of any really new things technologically from Intel or AMD .

AMD's Fusion should be cool ,but now quite a few years still away it seems .

Intel with all the money isn't bringing out anything drastically new in the next years either .

All really exciting things from either two are still a few years away .

How come everybody else in the chip industry is bringing out cool new things ,but AMD & Intel aren't ?

Is there no incentive to do new things for Intel in normal x86 computing ?

Also ,what about the chip partnerchip between AMD & IBM (? & Toshiba) - I expected more to come from that .

Edited 2008-05-08 12:08 UTC

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RE: AMD Roadmap
by WereCatf on Thu 8th May 2008 12:14 UTC in reply to "AMD Roadmap"
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2006-02-15

How come everybody else in the chip industry is bringing out cool new things ,but AMD & Intel aren't ?

Just wait til people start licensing the memristor technology from HP! I do bet things will start looking pretty interesting then ;) Also, it should apply to quite a lot of things, not only to processor technology but to storage, memory, various chipsets..It is probably a few years away though.

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RE[2]: AMD Roadmap
by segedunum on Thu 8th May 2008 13:07 UTC in reply to "RE: AMD Roadmap"
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2005-07-06

Just wait til people start licensing the memristor technology from HP!

Well, it blurs the lines completely between RAM and hard storage, and that really is pretty interesting.

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RE[2]: AMD Roadmap
by kaiwai on Thu 8th May 2008 15:33 UTC in reply to "RE: AMD Roadmap"
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2005-07-06

How come everybody else in the chip industry is bringing out cool new things ,but AMD & Intel aren't ?

Just wait til people start licensing the memristor technology from HP! I do bet things will start looking pretty interesting then ;) Also, it should apply to quite a lot of things, not only to processor technology but to storage, memory, various chipsets..It is probably a few years away though.


Then again, it might be closer than we think. Depending on the election in the US, we might see a renewed effort by the US administration on encouraging investment into bleeding edge technologies such as memristor - which could mean coming on stream a lot earlier.

Even with that being said, there are new things coming out at record speed; what we think could be 2 years ago - in a few months, a technology might be developed to bring it from 2 years to 6 months. Having lived through 16 years of technology improvement, I don't doubt the will of the market place and the drive of the capitalist to want to come up with a better widget.

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RE: AMD Roadmap
by Wes Felter on Thu 8th May 2008 19:41 UTC in reply to "AMD Roadmap"
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2005-11-15

Fusion is "cool", but that's the only benefit I can see from it. Instead of having a low-end GPU in the chipset, you'll have a low-end GPU in the processor. Shrug.

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RE: AMD Roadmap
by MamiyaOtaru on Sat 10th May 2008 02:24 UTC in reply to "AMD Roadmap"
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2005-11-11

Intel with all the money isn't bringing out anyhing drastically new in the next years either .

I'm pretty excited about Nehalem. Quickpath and no more FSB should be nice. Of course, since that's basically how AMD has done it for years, one could easily say it isn't drastically new.

Perhaps the dynamic overclocking? I'm a little shaky on the details, but apparently if there is a thread running that is chewing up CPU, one of the cores can be overclocked and the other(s) shut off to keep the whole thing within normal thermal limits.

Maybe someday Larrabee will be something ;)

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Portuguese
by dmrio on Thu 8th May 2008 14:36 UTC
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2005-08-26

São Paulo has a tilde! :-)

edit: ã

Edited 2008-05-08 14:39 UTC

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RE: Portuguese
by atriq on Thu 8th May 2008 18:27 UTC in reply to "Portuguese"
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2007-10-18

I think your post explained why they didn't bother with the tilde. ;)

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