Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th May 2008 19:19 UTC
Original OSNews Interviews BeOS (and Haiku) has a very powerful filesystem, thanks mostly to its extensive use of attributes and live queries to search through these attributes. In order to access these powerful features over a network, you need a network file system that also supports attributes and queries - cue BeServed, Kevin Musick's network file system. A few weeks ago, the code to BeServed was donated to the Haiku project as open source under a MIT license, so HaikuNews and OSNews decided to interview Kevin Musick together. In addition, Haiku launched the Haiku Code Drive 2008.
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Memories
by oneguynick on Sat 17th May 2008 20:40 UTC
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2005-07-06

I am going to go load this on my 8500 Mac for old times sake. There is a great deal of BeOS applications begging to be released in some OSS fashion. Thanks to the author for giving the code to the community. I always enjoyed it back in the day

Nick

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RE: Memories
by memson on Wed 21st May 2008 01:34 UTC in reply to "Memories"
memson Member since:
2006-01-01

BeServed doesn't run under PowerPC. I started porting it, but the code assumed all clients were little endian and I didn't get a chance to fix all the bugs. This was in like 2001 or 2002 or so.

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Huh?
by BSDfan on Sat 17th May 2008 20:50 UTC
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2007-03-14

While it's great to see Haiku news, shouldn't the "Haiku Code Drive 2008" article get some publicly here? It's a rather commendable goal... bringing on students that didn't quite get accepted as part of the Google Summer of Code event.

How about you try again and get it right this time Thom? ;)

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The Cue Rabies
by Invincible Cow on Sun 18th May 2008 09:47 UTC
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2006-06-24

Will you please stop using the word "cue" in _all_ news items? It's getting annoying. At least type define:cue into Google before using it further.

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RE: The Cue Rabies
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 18th May 2008 10:06 UTC in reply to "The Cue Rabies"
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2005-06-29

Will you please stop using the word "cue" in _all_ news items? It's getting annoying. At least type define:cue into Google before using it further.


All?

Looking at the current front page, only two newsitems use the word 'cue'. So, your point...?

Oh, and technically, there's nothing wrong with using 'cue' in the way that I did in those two items. In most contexts, a 'cue' is a signal for something to begin, words to be spoken, or actions to be taken. In this particular item, for instance, the need for a network filesystem is the cue for BeServed to come on stage - cue BeServed. The need for a NFS cues BeServed to come on stage.

Edited 2008-05-18 10:21 UTC

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RE[2]: The Cue Rabies
by Invincible Cow on Sun 18th May 2008 14:35 UTC in reply to "RE: The Cue Rabies"
Invincible Cow Member since:
2006-06-24

> Looking at the current front page, only
> two newsitems use the word 'cue'.
Because a lot of the other items were written by David Adams...

Edited 2008-05-18 14:36 UTC

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RE[2]: The Cue Rabies
by memson on Wed 21st May 2008 01:40 UTC in reply to "RE: The Cue Rabies"
memson Member since:
2006-01-01

Thom, I have to agree, your use of "cue" is excessive and somewhat out of place.

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RE: The Cue Rabies
by deathshadow on Tue 20th May 2008 18:13 UTC in reply to "The Cue Rabies"
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2005-07-12

Dictionary.com

1. anything said or done, on or off stage, that is followed by a specific line or action: An off-stage door slam was his cue to enter.
2. anything that excites to action; stimulus.
3. a hint; intimation; guiding suggestion.
4. the part a person is to play; a prescribed or necessary course of action.
5. a sensory signal used to identify experiences, facilitate memory, or organize responses.
6. Archaic. frame of mind; mood.

- verb (used with object)
7. to provide with a cue or indication; give a cue to; prompt: Will you cue me on my lines?
8. to insert, or direct to come in, in a specific place in a musical or dramatic performance (usually fol. by in or into): to cue in a lighting effect.
9. to search for and reach (a specific track on a recording) (sometimes fol. by up).

IMHO Thom's use falls under #1 and #4, possible #8 - the first sentance sets up the scenario, which is the indication for the item after to 'enter the stage'... on top of which it is written in conversational prose, where such uses are commonplace and acceptable.

Dictionary man, dictionary. I would suggest the use one instead of google 'define' - combined with a understanding of grammatical prose styles - before complaining about someone elses command of the language.

I mean hell, at least it wasn't "speaking the engrish moist goodry" like most sites and posters these days.

Edited 2008-05-20 18:16 UTC

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Haiku 2008
by SoloDeveloper on Sun 18th May 2008 14:06 UTC
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2008-03-16

I think that it is a great idea. Hopefully progress will be made to add the code in and make a better FS for Be/Haiku.

I just hope that lots of people donate for the funding of the Haiku Code Drive.

I have to admit, i have not use BeOS since BeOS MAX was around, although for about 1 year i had hardware that was so old even the best of Linux distros would seem slow on it, so i through BeOS MAX on it and the hardware responded well to it.

that is to say, it could boot, i could do reports on it, and sure the internet with a firefox build.

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attributes
by mmu_man on Sun 18th May 2008 22:39 UTC
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2006-09-30

> 4. Do you see a possible solution for the attribute problem (where other operating systems disregard BFS attributes)?

Actually most of the time (when some fool didn't disable it) xattr support is enabled in Linux. And NTFS also supports them (just even Microsoft forgot about it).
But they aren't compatible with BFS ones, so a mapping must be designed, that is stable with respect to calling itself (idempotent, ie. coying back to BFS whatever the way doesn't deviate from the original ones).

Edited 2008-05-18 22:41 UTC

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