Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th May 2008 17:20 UTC, submitted by Dan Warne
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Back in 1996, Palm released its first Palm Pilot PDAs onto the market, and quickly became a household name in the PDa business - so far as that Palm and Palm Pilot became synonyms for any PDA device. The company has hit some rough waters lately, but if it's up to CEO Ed Colligan, that's all going to change in the coming years.
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My Take
by fretinator on Wed 28th May 2008 18:35 UTC
fretinator
Member since:
2005-07-06

As a Palm developer, and a Palm user (Centro), I vote ditch the Classic OS except in a VM on top of the Linux or CE OS. My Centro has great features - I use SSH, VNC, sync my Palm over the Net with my home Linux box. It has a lot of things for me to love as a geek.

HOWEVER, 2-3 times a day I have to pop the back off (which is not that easy) and take the battery out to reset the device. Putting the cover back on is even harder. The lack of memory protection in the Classic Palm OS is no longer acceptable. It would be OK to run classic apps in a VM (like StyleTap on CE), as the inevitable lockups would not trash the device. BTW, the apps that lockup on a Palm are across the board - some 3rd party, and some from Palm (or Sprint) itself. It must change!

RE: My Take
by jabbotts on Wed 28th May 2008 19:54 UTC in reply to "My Take"
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I was never able to get the Tungsten T5 synchronized against a Linux distribution; it became one of the few reasons I keep Windows installed. I couldn't wait any longer for them to build an update to the T5 (Livedrive was close but not quite).

They had enough challenge with WinME eating there market share alive, now they'll have to best the Nokia N810.

I never had much luck with my Treos
by yakirz on Wed 28th May 2008 20:21 UTC
yakirz
Member since:
2006-05-11

I had a 600, 650 and 680. Like the earlier poster, I had to reset it at least once a day, if not more. If it wasn't also my phone, it wouldn't be the end of the world, but occasionally I'd lose calls because the OS crashed.

If they can't go to a more stable OS, I don't see much of a future. I use my 680 still for e-books and the occasional Palm OS program or game, but I switched to an iPhone.

bsharitt Member since:
2005-07-07

I recently got rid of my Treo 755p for those same stability reasons. I've always liked PalmOS at its most basic level, but now it's falling behind on modern features and has serious stability problems.

BeOS was going to help
by bousozoku on Thu 29th May 2008 05:30 UTC
bousozoku
Member since:
2006-01-23

Time has passed, a lot of it, hasn't it?

They could recover, in a similar way to Apple, but they really need a visionary instead of a committee.

I have a Handspring Visor Deluxe here but I haven't used it for years. It ate batteries and by the time I restored from the Springboard backup module, the batteries (with some exaggeration) were about dead again.

Too bad that they didn't figure out how to make BeOS work for them because I believe we'd have some nice devices out of it. Patching PalmOS is like trying to get Mac OS 9 to run and that wasn't a pleasant experience.

jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I've been having luck with the Access PalmOS VM they released. Except for briding the VM and physical bluetooth radios, it supports all my old PalmOS apps that didn't have a native replacement. Hopefully Access will release newer versions; I hope that project didn't die to save someone's budget..

Internet Time
by Branedy on Thu 29th May 2008 17:52 UTC
Branedy
Member since:
2008-05-29

The only problem with Palm's new OS is the time line, we are talking internet time here, when Colligan talks 'the next few years' thats centuries in internet time. The world will have passed by Palm yet again.

Seriously, folks...
by tomcat on Fri 30th May 2008 02:02 UTC
tomcat
Member since:
2006-01-06

Does anybody really care what Palm is doing? They practically owned the PDA market, and it seemed like a natural segue into phones, but they never made it work. Now, they're little more than a bit player and, unless they DEMONSTRATE something truly visionary, they're headed for the dustbin of computing history.

My advice to Palm: Don't talk about what you're doing next, MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Edited 2008-05-30 02:03 UTC