Linked by Adam S on Thu 26th Jun 2008 19:40 UTC, submitted by asupcb
Apple "Last week's news about Apple's use of SproutCore triggered a lot of discussion about the future of rich Internet applications, run-time environments, and JavaScript frameworks. While SproutCore has been referred to as "Cocoa for the web," its developer Charles Jolley says that the framework was "inspired by Cocoa," not really a port of Cocoa. But what if someone ported not just Cocoa, but also an Objective-C runtime the runs entirely in JavaScript via a browser? Well, the developers at 280 North did just that." Ars has the entire story.
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SproutCore is MVC with Bindings
by tyrione on Thu 26th Jun 2008 19:53 UTC
tyrione
Member since:
2005-11-21

It's not Cocoa for the Web. Get that one right out of your lexicon.

Nothing left to say. The ObjC Run-time is available, just not Apple's.

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Impressive
by chris_dk on Thu 26th Jun 2008 20:07 UTC
chris_dk
Member since:
2005-07-12

Looks much better than SproutCore.

Check it out:

http://280slides.com

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Holy-unnecessary!
by Alex Forster on Thu 26th Jun 2008 20:21 UTC
Alex Forster
Member since:
2005-08-12

I didn't believe the summary, so I dove into view-source land.

And wow...

They /really have/ invented their own language, based around Objective-C, and wrote a runtime engine in javascript to run it in the browser. I'm talking, this thing is tokenized and parsed and executed in a virtual machine. In javascript.

Sample of the language they invented-
http://280slides.com/Editor/1214430215/Document.j

The interpreter-
http://280slides.com/Editor/1214430215/Frameworks/Objective-J/Objec...

Reply Score: 5

RE: Holy-unnecessary!
by Kabal on Thu 26th Jun 2008 20:43 UTC in reply to "Holy-unnecessary!"
Kabal Member since:
2005-07-09

Unnecessary... but very, very cool ;)

The app they made with it is pretty special too.

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RE[2]: Holy-unnecessary!
by kaiwai on Thu 26th Jun 2008 21:14 UTC in reply to "RE: Holy-unnecessary!"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Unnecessary... but very, very cool ;)

The app they made with it is pretty special too.


Depends on what one calls unnecessary - if online applications took a form line that in the future (along with broadband improvement), I'd be happy for that to be the future of computers (although I would prefer it to be an option rather than a replacement).

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280 Slides is quite nice
by tyrione on Fri 27th Jun 2008 05:04 UTC
tyrione
Member since:
2005-11-21

It's nice to see someone besides Apple took their focus to quality and presentation, brought it to the web and didn't use FLASH.

Looked fantastic in Opera 9.5.

That's definitely something I'd use to add to my work.

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Javascript limitation
by sanctus on Fri 27th Jun 2008 17:11 UTC
sanctus
Member since:
2005-08-31

This look very nice.

But instead of building a preprocessor and a kinda-new language (obj-j). Wouldn't be possible to implement message passing in pure javascript?

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