Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 1st Jul 2008 17:20 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives It is no secret that us OSNews editors - Eugenia and I, mostly - have fond memories of the BeOS. So, whenever a handy BeOS feature makes its way into other operating systems, I zealously point it out in the articles or comments I write about them. Call it a harmless little compulsion. Anyway, a few days ago, while hanging around in Haiku's irc channel, a link to a screenshot showed an interesting little piece of BeOS legacy which had found its way to Windows.
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ProcessExplorer
by evangs on Tue 1st Jul 2008 17:39 UTC
evangs
Member since:
2005-07-07

We've had something similar on Windows for years in the form of ProcessExplorer. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

It's a shame that the default task manager still sucks even on Vista and you have to rely on third parties to provide a more useful alternative. Reminds me of Finder on OS X ...

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RE: ProcessExplorer
by hobgoblin on Tue 1st Jul 2008 17:48 UTC in reply to "ProcessExplorer"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

im guessing its microsofts way of dodging anti-monopoly legislation...

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RE[2]: ProcessExplorer
by evangs on Tue 1st Jul 2008 18:11 UTC in reply to "RE: ProcessExplorer"
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

Uh ... ProcessExplorer is one of the best tools out there that replaces the task manager. It was originally written by the guys at Sysinternals who are experts at Windows development. Then MS bought them out and ProcessExplorer is now hosted on MSDN.

I just don't understand why MS doesn't just replace the damn task manager with ProcessExplorer that's tons better.

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RE: ProcessExplorer
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 1st Jul 2008 17:50 UTC in reply to "ProcessExplorer"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

ProcessExplorer, while really useful in its own right, doesn't really offer the same accessibility to the mentioned features as ProcessController does. PE is an extended version of the task manager, while PC is something else.

They both deliver the same functionality, but they deliver it differently.

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RE[2]: ProcessExplorer
by XemonerdX on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 09:02 UTC in reply to "RE: ProcessExplorer"
XemonerdX Member since:
2005-07-03

ProcessExplorer, while really useful in its own right, doesn't really offer the same accessibility to the mentioned features as ProcessController does. PE is an extended version of the task manager, while PC is something else.

They both deliver the same functionality, but they deliver it differently.

What's less accessible in PE compared to PC? Judging from the screenshots on the PC page (http://www.k23productions.com/products/process_controller/art/snap....) I'd say PE offers the same information as PC does except most of it is viewable at a glance (http://i.technet.microsoft.com/bb896653.ProcessExplorer(en-us,MSDN....).jpg) rather than having to drill down like in PC. I'd even say that judging from PC's page PE offers more functionality than PC (viewing DLL's mapped into a process' address space for instance, no mention of this on PC's page). Then again, I've not installed PC to see how it stacks up against PE, PE has everything I need anyways, and then some.

And PE is anything but an extended version of the task manager as someone already pointed out (if by extended you mean a wrapper around the native task manager). And even if it was, what difference does it make?

What's funny about the PC screenshot btw is that PC is taking up the most resources together with VLC.

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RE: ProcessExplorer
by antik on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 16:19 UTC in reply to "ProcessExplorer"
antik Member since:
2006-05-19

Looks like rip-off from KDE.

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RE[2]: ProcessExplorer
by umccullough on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 17:06 UTC in reply to "RE: ProcessExplorer"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Looks like rip-off from KDE.


Perhaps the other way around... ProcessController has been around since at least 2000... has the KDE tool you reference been around longer than that?

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RE[3]: ProcessExplorer
by umccullough on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 18:08 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: ProcessExplorer"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

"Looks like rip-off from KDE.


Perhaps the other way around... ProcessController has been around since at least 2000... has the KDE tool you reference been around longer than that?
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Nevermind... I guess you were referring to ProcessExplorer (damn similar names got me all confused)

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Very cool to have this in Windows
by GCrain on Tue 1st Jul 2008 17:54 UTC
GCrain
Member since:
2005-07-11

It is odd to see something ported from an obscure OS to Windows. I tried it and it looks and behaves remarkably like the BeOS version.
I'll have to find some mal-ware and see how it shows up in Process Controller :-)
There SO many odd processes and threads running I will be busy with Google to understand what is not needed.

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good memories
by JrezIN on Tue 1st Jul 2008 18:00 UTC
JrezIN
Member since:
2005-06-29

Amazing! Downloading it right now...

I know several apps has similar behavior, but as the editor said, everyone with some good BeOS memories will appreciate it... =]

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And the million dollar question is...
by anythinggoes on Tue 1st Jul 2008 18:32 UTC
anythinggoes
Member since:
2008-07-01

but will it run in reactOS? ;)

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AWSOME!
by judgen on Tue 1st Jul 2008 18:38 UTC
judgen
Member since:
2006-07-12

All i need now to get my BeOS fix is opentracker and deskbar for windows.

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RE: AWSOME!
by Dutch_Cap on Tue 1st Jul 2008 18:58 UTC in reply to "AWSOME!"
Dutch_Cap Member since:
2007-04-10

I can't believe I'm saying this, but that would make me switch from Linux to Windows.

Edited 2008-07-01 18:59 UTC

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RE[2]: AWSOME!
by zlynx on Tue 1st Jul 2008 21:21 UTC in reply to "RE: AWSOME!"
zlynx Member since:
2005-07-20

Why not port those to Linux instead? Then you wouldn't have to switch.

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RE: AWSOME!
by sardaukar on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 12:49 UTC in reply to "AWSOME!"
sardaukar Member since:
2006-05-09

Amen to that!

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RE: AWSOME!
by TQH ! on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 14:09 UTC in reply to "AWSOME!"
TQH ! Member since:
2006-03-16

All I need is some windows games ported to Haiku ;)

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Works on 64bit Vista
by shiny on Tue 1st Jul 2008 20:40 UTC
shiny
Member since:
2005-08-09

Works great on my 64-bit Vista SP1.

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Network traffic...
by JeanKadang on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 08:50 UTC
JeanKadang
Member since:
2008-07-02

Does anybody know of a small application like this, which lets you monitor network traffic per process as well ?

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RE: Network traffic...
by XemonerdX on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 09:08 UTC in reply to "Network traffic..."
XemonerdX Member since:
2005-07-03

Does anybody know of a small application like this, which lets you monitor network traffic per process as well ?

Maybe some applications found here: http://pcwin.com/software/Network_Process_Monitor/ ?

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RE: Network traffic...
by mbpark on Wed 2nd Jul 2008 11:32 UTC in reply to "Network traffic..."
mbpark Member since:
2005-11-17

You can also get TCPView from Sysinternals (now hosted on Technet).

I use this tool a lot to find issues. It works incredibly well.

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