Linked by Quentin Hartman on Mon 14th Jul 2008 09:27 UTC, submitted by Ralf.
Amiga & AROS Last week, Hyperion Entertainment announced that Amiga OS 4.1 has gone into final testing and is scheduled for release mid-Q3/2008. Full announcement here.
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Here we go again...
by DevL on Mon 14th Jul 2008 09:32 UTC
DevL
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2005-07-06

1. Dead Horse.
2. Stick.
3. Profit?

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Why?
by Nycran on Mon 14th Jul 2008 09:38 UTC
Nycran
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2006-02-06

As well know, there is no Amiga hardware, and there is not likely to be anytime soon since Amiga Inc. are being complete kill joys. So why is Hyperion doing this? Does anyone have any idea what motive they have? Does this aid their legal case against Amiga Inc. somehow?

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RE: Why?
by rhyder on Mon 14th Jul 2008 10:59 UTC in reply to "Why?"
rhyder Member since:
2005-09-28

Nycran, please check your inbox (on this site) ;-)

back OT:

Hmmm... It's been more than 18 months, isn't the company that owns the Amiga IP supposed to sell it off so that the cycle can start again?

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RE[2]: Why?
by alexandru_lz on Mon 14th Jul 2008 11:30 UTC in reply to "RE: Why?"
alexandru_lz Member since:
2007-02-11

By the time AmigaOS 4.1 is out, I'm sure SkyOS will run on some Amiga hardware. Ugh, wait, what Amiga hardware...

Seriously -- I'm not buying anything Amiga-related these days. At least my A500 is comfortably sitting on its desk.

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RE[3]: Why?
by Isolationist on Mon 14th Jul 2008 12:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Why?"
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2006-05-28

"By the time AmigaOS 4.1 is out, I'm sure SkyOS will run on some Amiga hardware. Ugh, wait, what Amiga hardware... "

Even then, SkyOS will still be in beta awaiting a first release ;)

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RE: Why?
by Cezy on Mon 14th Jul 2008 15:45 UTC in reply to "Why?"
Cezy Member since:
2006-05-13

OS4.1 will work on PPC "classic" Amiga (1200/4000 with a PPC board) on AmigaOne and on the NEW Amiga hardware, SAM 440 mabe by Acube, http://www.acube-systems.biz/eng/index.php

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RE[2]: Why?
by gleng on Wed 16th Jul 2008 12:04 UTC in reply to "RE: Why?"
gleng Member since:
2006-02-16

and on the NEW Amiga hardware, SAM 440 mabe by Acube


Not without a license from Amiga Inc. it won't.

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RE[2]: Why?
by DJBase on Wed 16th Jul 2008 14:31 UTC in reply to "RE: Why?"
DJBase Member since:
2006-02-17

OS4.1 will work on PPC "classic" Amiga (1200/4000 with a PPC board) on AmigaOne and on the NEW Amiga hardware, SAM 440 mabe by Acube, http://www.acube-systems.biz/eng/index.php


Please try again and read the announcement. OS4.1 is only for AmigaOne (for now).

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AmigaOS 4.1?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 14th Jul 2008 09:56 UTC
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2005-06-29

The three men and the cow rejoice!

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How about porting it to old PPC Hardware?
by Mage66 on Mon 14th Jul 2008 12:48 UTC
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2005-07-11

I have tons of old Macs here that won't run MacOS X 10.5.

G4's and G3's would be a PERFECT target for an alternate OS that would extend their useful life.

It's amazing how ego keeps AmigaOS and MorphOS off these boxes instead of using good business sense.

But, unfortunately... good business sense and Amiga appear never to show up together.

So many stupid mistakes made in that realm.

It just shows that if you can't market your way out of a paper bag, even having the "best of breed" product won't save you.

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Doesn't really matter.
by ZacharyM on Mon 14th Jul 2008 15:00 UTC
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2007-05-28

I mean no offense to any Amiga fans in here, but these announcements are redundant, they'll announce it, then nothing will be delivered. It's a waste of time.

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RE: Doesn't really matter.
by strim on Mon 14th Jul 2008 15:27 UTC in reply to "Doesn't really matter."
strim Member since:
2008-07-01

What? MorphOS 2.0 was delivered 1 of July.

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RE[2]: Doesn't really matter.
by defrisselle on Mon 14th Jul 2008 16:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Doesn't really matter."
defrisselle Member since:
2008-07-14

Too bad MorphOS 2.0 crashes too much for the money they want for it. It would be nice if the demo would run long enought to timeout and not crash out.

Edited 2008-07-14 16:23 UTC

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RE: Doesn't really matter.
by stone on Tue 15th Jul 2008 07:18 UTC in reply to "Doesn't really matter."
stone Member since:
2005-07-06

its not for sale- likely in the hope the court case will be completed first- but it has been public showcased several times already. it exists and it works.

i believe you are confusing amigaos4 and hyperion who has actually delivered repeatedly with amigaos5 and amiga who so far has a.. ehm, bad track record at best.

/stone

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No, AmigaOS 4.1 will not work on the SAM440
by mbpark on Mon 14th Jul 2008 16:06 UTC
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2005-11-17

Hello,

If you look at:

http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080/amiga

You'll see that you need an AmigaOne to run it, along with an ATI Graphics card.

Seriously, though, this is a good move on their part. The old Commodore/Amiga HW is getting on in years. The fact that AmigaOS 4.0 came out for it speaks incredibly highly to the tenacity of the Amiga community. I can't name any other machine from that era, save the Atari ST and possibly RiscOS, that has received anything that close to a modern OS for 10+ year old hardware. To put it in Microsoft terms, it would be like having them release Windows Vista for the Pentium MMX with all the features intact.

Hyperion has done an incredible job modernizing AmigaOS. However, there are more features that can be taken advantage to provide a better experience by moving to newer hardware based on G3/G4 processors, ATI graphics cards, modern IDE/SCSI hard drive interfaces, and less hardware to hack (the Amiga PPC accelerators did some very low-level work to even be operational on an Amiga, and I'm sure that code isn't pretty!).

Hopefully, more hardware than the A1 will eventually be supported.

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AROS
by ebasconp on Mon 14th Jul 2008 16:58 UTC
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2006-05-09

Everytime I see comments about the AmigaOS, I said this same stuff:

Why letting alive to that old dinosaur written for a company which do not worry about the customer and which gets full of "blah blah blah" and no facts at all! [ok, almost "at all"].

Long live "AROS"... This project is getting better and getter and shows high signs of life...

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dead horse!!!
by sardaukar on Mon 14th Jul 2008 17:05 UTC
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2006-05-09

DEAD HORSE DEAD HORSE

Show me the HW or shut up...

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RE: dead horse!!!
by helf on Mon 14th Jul 2008 18:15 UTC in reply to "dead horse!!!"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

/me waves around PPC enabled A1200 and A4000s

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RE[2]: dead horse!!!
by Johann Chua on Wed 16th Jul 2008 14:36 UTC in reply to "RE: dead horse!!!"
Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

I think I'll just stick to finding an Amiga 4000 with Video Toaster. Not sure how much I'd spend getting a PPC-accelerated 1200 or 4000. Either way shipping will cost me an arm and a leg, since I doubt anyone in the Philippines is selling one. Might be some Video Toaster systems still in production use.

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RE[3]: dead horse!!!
by DJBase on Wed 16th Jul 2008 14:42 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: dead horse!!!"
DJBase Member since:
2006-02-17

PPC cards for Amiga are expensive these days. You have to spend $800-$1000 or more just for a card if you find one.

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It was good while it lasted.
by truckweb on Mon 14th Jul 2008 17:46 UTC
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2005-07-06

Back in the days, the Amiga was probably the best computer available for the money. It's sad to see that miss management killed the product and it's future.

But here and now, what can you possibly do with an Amiga that you can't do with a PC (Win or Linux) or Mac?

If it's only to play legacy games or software, I would advice on using UAC instead of paying for a old AmigaOne and the OS...

They should at least port the OS to Apple computer, since you can still buy G3/G4/G5 Apple PC (eBay!). Sometime for much less than a simple motherboard (AmigaOne).

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RE: It was good while it lasted.
by alexandru_lz on Mon 14th Jul 2008 19:58 UTC in reply to "It was good while it lasted."
alexandru_lz Member since:
2007-02-11

Actually, to put it the other way round, there are a lot of current things that you can still do on an old Amiga. I'm not sure if that's the issue. Such a project would have a fair audience among people like myself, who would get one just to play with it, admire the design and have it sit near some 20+-year old Amiga.

Legacy Mac platforms are well served by Linux, I have Gentoo on my iBook G3. It has excellent software support, I don't think AmigaOS would bring anything new to such a platform.

Then again -- right now, I don't think there's a platform for it to bring anything new on.

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