Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Fri 18th Jul 2008 01:19 UTC
Window Managers A window manager in GNU/Linux is a piece of software which controls placement and appearance of windows in a graphical user interface in X. All the WMs listed here can easily be obtained through your distribution's respective repositories.
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awesome
by stabbyjones on Fri 18th Jul 2008 02:16 UTC
stabbyjones
Member since:
2008-04-15

i'm a gnome user but i started using awesome specifically because of it's name.

as the article says a bit of time is needed to get used to it but i love it. when you don't need any fancy crap just a simple WM it's awesome.

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Fluxbox and jwm
by obsidian on Fri 18th Jul 2008 03:14 UTC
obsidian
Member since:
2007-05-12

Both Fluxbox and jwm are great. Good to see distros like SliTaz showing what's possible with jwm.

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Comment by Ethyriel
by Ethyriel on Fri 18th Jul 2008 04:52 UTC
Ethyriel
Member since:
2005-07-07

This is a big guide? Save yourself the time and just go straight to xwinman.org

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RE: Comment by Ethyriel
by milatchi on Sun 20th Jul 2008 17:11 UTC in reply to "Comment by Ethyriel"
milatchi Member since:
2005-08-29

Save yourself the time and just go straight to xwinman.org

That's what I was thinking too. xwinman.org has probably been around 8-9 years. I used to go there when it was plig.org/xwinman. That was when I was playing around with getting NetBSD on the PPC to work.

Anyway, nothing will ever be better than 4Dwm, NOTHING!

/me hisses and my eyes glow as I run back into the shadows.

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Fluxbox and xcompmgr
by Isolationist on Fri 18th Jul 2008 07:12 UTC
Isolationist
Member since:
2006-05-28

Absolutely love fluxbox for its simplicity. If you like eye candy then you should seriously consider fluxbox and xcompmgr for the true transparency and subtle fade effects.

If only fluxbox would work with compiz-fusion ....

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RE: Fluxbox and xcompmgr
by TLZ_ on Fri 18th Jul 2008 08:55 UTC in reply to "Fluxbox and xcompmgr"
TLZ_ Member since:
2007-02-05

What?

Isn't Fluxbox' appeal that it's minimalistic, elegant and relatively light?

Fancy effects witch compiz-delivers kinda goes against all that.

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RE[2]: Fluxbox and xcompmgr
by theTSF on Fri 18th Jul 2008 11:09 UTC in reply to "RE: Fluxbox and xcompmgr"
theTSF Member since:
2005-09-27

Fancy effects don't always have to eat up your system. For most systems now (at least mid-range and up) the graphic card for non-gamers is underutilized. Things like transparency 3d rotations etc. Actually touch the CPU less and less and the work is done by the video card. I found that Ubuntu runs slower when I turned effects to basic vs. advanced with the wobbly windows and spinning cubes. Because the effects it does do semi-transparency fading... Is done via the CPU rendering not the GPU.

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RE[2]: Fluxbox and xcompmgr
by marafaka on Fri 18th Jul 2008 11:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Fluxbox and xcompmgr"
marafaka Member since:
2006-01-03

What is minimalistic in any of those boxes; functionality maybe? Take a look at a tiling WM like DWM and you can call any of your boxes a hog.

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RE[2]: Fluxbox and xcompmgr
by Isolationist on Fri 18th Jul 2008 11:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Fluxbox and xcompmgr"
Isolationist Member since:
2006-05-28

What?

Isn't Fluxbox' appeal that it's minimalistic, elegant and relatively light?

Fancy effects witch compiz-delivers kinda goes against all that.


I have found the fancy effects to be both elegant and relatively light on resources - albeit unstable at times depending on the video card in use, but IMHO this wouldn't go against the Fluxbox appeal.

Anyway as both are window managers I doubt it will ever be possible.

Reply Score: 2

Nice list
by Crono on Fri 18th Jul 2008 07:27 UTC
Crono
Member since:
2006-11-08

I'm using GNOME with Sawfish at the moment and I'm very happy with it.

But one add to the list: amiwm
Unfortunately amiwm hasn't been updated for years. One reason might be that the source is not really free. Too bad.

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Ion 3
by DrZero on Fri 18th Jul 2008 08:06 UTC
DrZero
Member since:
2008-06-26

Ion is a very nice tiling window manager and has far greater usability than one might expect from screenshots or past experiences with other tiling window managers.

Perhaps its biggest flaw is the militant character of its creator, who often comes of as a jerk by calling Xinerama "unecological penis enlargement" and says most FOSS is "crap" (http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq/entries/Xinerama.html).

Then again, he did convince me of the beauty of non-anti-aliased fonts, so his opinions aren't all bad.

Anyway, if you want to try a tiling window manager that's willing to adapt to you until you adapt to it (you can use the mouse for basic tasks), try Ion.

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RE: Ion 3
by 6c1452 on Fri 18th Jul 2008 23:53 UTC in reply to "Ion 3"
6c1452 Member since:
2007-08-29

Ion is a very nice tiling window manager and has far greater usability than one might expect from screenshots or past experiences with other tiling window managers.


Seconded. Best window manager ever; I've been using it exclusively since 2005.

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where is dwm?
by lavish on Fri 18th Jul 2008 09:03 UTC
lavish
Member since:
2006-12-30

Poor article. How can you name awesome without considering dwm[1]? Many window managers have been inspired both in code and behaviour by wmii/dwm: awesome itself is nothing else than a dwm fork.

[1]: http://www.suckless.org/dwm/

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Useful screenshots?
by jack_perry on Fri 18th Jul 2008 11:27 UTC
jack_perry
Member since:
2005-07-06

It would be nice to see some useful screenshots. The ones given in the article are too small to be useful. For example, the thumbnail he provides for Fluxbox looks like it has some interesting commentary, which I would really like to read. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have occurred to the author that anyone lacking a magnifying glass would be able to read it. At least add a link to the source image!

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RE: Useful screenshots?
by lavish on Fri 18th Jul 2008 11:42 UTC in reply to "Useful screenshots?"
lavish Member since:
2006-12-30

I can't provide you any fluxbox shots since I don't use it, but here is a dwm screenshot: 2 tags selected and tiling layout in action ;)

http://www.minimalblue.com/gallery/screenshots/big/dwm-20080718.png

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RE: Useful screenshots?
by Vanger on Fri 18th Jul 2008 11:51 UTC in reply to "Useful screenshots?"
Vanger Member since:
2007-11-28

Fluxbox (top, xmms, gkrellm) - http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/faijeya/desktop.jpg
Fluxbox (with 3ddesktop) - http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/faijeya/flux3d.png
Screens are quite old, though.

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RE[2]: Useful screenshots?
by Isolationist on Fri 18th Jul 2008 12:10 UTC in reply to "RE: Useful screenshots?"
Isolationist Member since:
2006-05-28

Fluxbox (top, xmms, gkrellm) - http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/faijeya/desktop.jpg
Fluxbox (with 3ddesktop) - http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/faijeya/flux3d.png
Screens are quite old, though.


Thanks for the last link - didn't know about 3ddesktop

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RE: Useful screenshots?
by StephenBeDoper on Fri 18th Jul 2008 15:15 UTC in reply to "Useful screenshots?"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

I would guess that the author took out the full-size images after the article got "OSNews'd".

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Is it really minimalist.?
by dindin on Fri 18th Jul 2008 14:14 UTC
dindin
Member since:
2006-03-29

That is a real question not some slight.

I mostly run Gnome applications. When I run a minimalist window manager, would it make any difference since many of the shared libraries used for more loaded (non- Lib-X11) WM's such as Metacity are also loaded. I do not notice any gain when running non-xterm applications such as Firefox or Kino.

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RE: Is it really minimalist.?
by Bending Unit on Fri 18th Jul 2008 16:25 UTC in reply to "Is it really minimalist.?"
Bending Unit Member since:
2005-07-06

No of course not. When running on a reasonable recent computer, trivial things like a window manager doesn't speed up or slow things down, only some of your applications do.

How many windows do you open, close, move per second anyway?

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Ehh...
by 1c3d0g on Fri 18th Jul 2008 22:30 UTC
1c3d0g
Member since:
2005-07-06

...why all the whiz-bang effects for a simple Window Manager? I prefer something in which I can actually get work done, like Openbox. It_just_works (and let's ME work on my PC without it being in the way).

But I guess some people really do like everything and the kitchen sink. Which is why I love Open Source, 'cause everybody can choose what suits them best.

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Metacity replacement ?
by wrocic on Sun 20th Jul 2008 17:56 UTC
wrocic
Member since:
2008-07-10

I was messing around on Synaptic the other day, and I found a replacement WM for Gnome. It made the whole Ubuntu system speed up no end. I think it was Openbox for Gnome. I am not sure though.

It is not a replacement WM like going from Gnome to KDE or from Afterstep to Fluxbox.

Gnome looks and works almost the same, except the theme is different and things work faster.

The same manager is available for KDE and Enlightenment

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