Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Tue 30th Sep 2008 20:27 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Nokia announced today the launch of Qt Extended 4.4, a complete mobile and embedded development platform based on the open source Qt toolkit. It is designed with a modular architecture that provides building blocks for assembling a Linux-based software stack for various embedded devices ranging from phones to set-top boxes." ArsTechnica showcases the various features and enhancements of the platform. There are some impressive screenshots of the Qt widgets as well.
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good news
by poundsmack on Tue 30th Sep 2008 20:32 UTC
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I for one am thrilled about all the embeded systems and mobile device work going into QT. my reason being is that to make QT run effeciently on low profile or small systems means that you have to have clean code and a small footprint. So many other graphics toolkits fail to achieve this. Keep up the good work.

Trolltech renames as well
by KAMiKAZOW on Tue 30th Sep 2008 21:06 UTC
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Trolltech is now called "Qt Software".

Edited 2008-09-30 21:06 UTC

v RE: Trolltech renames as well
by sbergman27 on Tue 30th Sep 2008 21:57 UTC in reply to "Trolltech renames as well"
RE[2]: Trolltech renames as well
by Kokopelli on Tue 30th Sep 2008 22:01 UTC in reply to "RE: Trolltech renames as well"
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2005-07-06


Judging from the responses to the "Guide Through the Linux Sound API Jungle" story, the old name seems more appropriate.


I think that axe has been ground enough, don't you? Personally I side w/ Aaron, though not necessarily the approach, on the sound API article. However I left it alone since I figured the furor over a minor issue would dissipate soon enough.

Edited 2008-09-30 22:02 UTC

RE[2]: Trolltech renames as well
by KAMiKAZOW on Wed 1st Oct 2008 09:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Trolltech renames as well"
KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

Judging from the responses to the "Guide Through the Linux Sound API Jungle" story, the old name seems more appropriate.

The only troll here is you. An of-topic troll as well, because your lame comment about sound APIs has nothing to do with this story.
If you're referring to the comments by Aaron Seigo then you should know that he's not a Qt developer. He's a KDE developer whose work is just sponsored by Nokia. He has no authority to talk on behalf Nokia/Trolltech/Qt Software.
I could go on and continue to refute your comment, but -- as I said -- that's off-topic.

GPL
by msundman on Wed 1st Oct 2008 01:14 UTC
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"Qt Software and Nokia are still committed to releasing Qt and Qt Extended under the GPL as open source", but "changes are a part of life".

RE: GPL
by J.R. on Wed 1st Oct 2008 10:52 UTC in reply to "GPL"
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2007-07-25

"Qt Software and Nokia are still committed to releasing Qt and Qt Extended under the GPL as open source", but "changes are a part of life".


Ok, that part I missed. If there is uncertainty about the future lisence for QT then I should maybe invest my time in some other toolkit? Its not GPL being a superior lisence to all others, but QT is expensive and I don't want to pay to release my apps as free software ;)

RE[2]: GPL
by _txf_ on Wed 1st Oct 2008 12:12 UTC in reply to "RE: GPL"
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2008-03-17

There is an agreement between kde and Qt software (formerly Trolltech) that allows forking Qt in the event that Qt becomes proprietary and closed source...

It is never going to happen as even if Nokia were inclined to relicense Qt they would inevitably end up competing with their own toolkit (which the forked version maybe ending up as lgpl a la gtk).

RE[3]: GPL
by minio on Wed 1st Oct 2008 13:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: GPL"
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2006-05-14

You may already fork QT if you want, but your fork must be under GPL as required by GPL. The agreement is about that if development of GPLed QT ever stop for whaterver reason, then the QT source will be released under BSD licence.

RE[4]: GPL
by J.R. on Fri 3rd Oct 2008 10:53 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: GPL"
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You may already fork QT if you want, but your fork must be under GPL as required by GPL. The agreement is about that if development of GPLed QT ever stop for whaterver reason, then the QT source will be released under BSD licence.


But does this also apply to Nokia? What I want to know is whether QT 4.9 or whatever released by Nokia is under the same agreement as QT4.0 released by Trolltech?

RE[5]: GPL
by anda_skoa on Fri 3rd Oct 2008 18:12 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: GPL"
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2005-07-07


But does this also apply to Nokia? What I want to know is whether QT 4.9 or whatever released by Nokia is under the same agreement as QT4.0 released by Trolltech?


Yes, it also applies to Nokia or anyone else buying the Qt Copyrights.

AFAIK, Nokia even agreed to extend it, e.g. other platforms than Unix/X11. Details are still being worked out though.

Herm
by kaiwai on Wed 1st Oct 2008 04:12 UTC
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2005-07-06

Hmm, I'd love to see this being made as a community distribution for the NetBook's that are currently out there. The GUI is simple, it is most likely very light weight, the perfect sort of UI for a resourced constrained device such as a NetBook.

Regarding this; is this a replacement for Qtopia or is this another/new version to target a new market?

RE: Herm
by KAMiKAZOW on Wed 1st Oct 2008 09:17 UTC in reply to "Herm"
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2005-07-06

Regarding this; is this a replacement for Qtopia or is this another/new version to target a new market?

RTFA!
"Qtopia (...) has been renamed and launched as Qt Extended 4.4."

Any downloads?
by kajaman on Wed 1st Oct 2008 09:47 UTC
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2006-01-06

I am trying to actually find anything related to qt-extended on Trolltech's ftp/website for download and so far found nothing.

Is it only me being before morning coffee, or there is nothing to download yet?

RE: Any downloads?
by PR Troll Qt Software on Thu 2nd Oct 2008 11:13 UTC in reply to "Any downloads?"
PR Troll Qt Software Member since:
2008-10-02

Hi,
here is the link to the Open Source Qt Extended download page. You will find the file at the bottom of the page:
http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=4

Maemo
by memson on Wed 1st Oct 2008 10:56 UTC
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2006-01-01

I'd be excited if they allow Qt Extended to replace Maemo on the N8x00 devices. I always loved my Zaurus because Qtopia was cool, but the device was too underpowered and the WiFi sucking all the power in 30 minutes and being 802.11B WEP only restricted it too much. The Qt/Qtopia tookit is SOOOO much nicer to use than GTK+/Hildon.

Much ado about nothing...
by madcrow on Sat 4th Oct 2008 16:15 UTC
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2006-03-13

All these people complaining about the "change comment" crack me up. Has it ever occurred to them, that maybe, just maybe, the comment was about the Name Changes (ie the end of the Trolltech and Qtopia names) rather than any pending evil license change...