Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 19th Nov 2008 10:00 UTC
Multimedia, AV Adobe recently released their 11th major version of Photoshop, along with the rest of the gang: Illustrator, Flash, Dreamweaver, Acrobat, Premiere, After Effects and more. Here's a peek at CS4's video-related tools, which are closer to the technologies I use for my Creative Commons videography work.
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Eugenia reads comic books...
by DeadFishMan on Wed 19th Nov 2008 11:25 UTC
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2006-01-09

... and digs the Avengers. Nice rendition of The Vision there, Eugenia! ;)

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premiere workflow
by stooovie on Wed 19th Nov 2008 13:04 UTC
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2006-01-25

Bad thing is that Premiere completely revamps editing process. Now we have some kind of Avid track patching (targeting), but without the Avid elegance. I guess the whole point of this was to lessen the need of mousing around, but with Adobe implementation, the result is the exact opposite. Anyone here have the same opinion?

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Comment by FunkyELF
by FunkyELF on Wed 19th Nov 2008 14:44 UTC
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2006-07-26

Regardless, I was able to use Illustrator and trace this sketch of mine, and then colorize it with Photoshop


Why would you take something that is vectorized and then rasterize it only to add color? Can't illustrator do color? I am unfamiliar with photoshop and even more so with illustrator (GIMP and Inkscape for me). I know Inkscape can color that stuff in...and then its still vectorized.

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RE: Comment by FunkyELF
by StephenBeDoper on Wed 19th Nov 2008 20:06 UTC in reply to "Comment by FunkyELF"
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2005-07-06

Why would you take something that is vectorized and then rasterize it only to add color? Can't illustrator do color? I am unfamiliar with photoshop and even more so with illustrator (GIMP and Inkscape for me). I know Inkscape can color that stuff in...and then its still vectorized.


I haven't used any versions of Illustrator newer than 10, but colouring was always pretty finicky in it (E.g., the "Gradient Mesh" tool).

And newer versions of Photoshop can work with vector objects, so the image may not have needed to be rasterized at all.

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RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF
by Eugenia on Wed 19th Nov 2008 21:00 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by FunkyELF"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

Exactly. Photoshop can open .ai vector files. And as you said, coloring on AI is funky, unpredictable somehow. Photoshop offers a more familiar ground.

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RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF
by dagw on Wed 19th Nov 2008 21:46 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by FunkyELF"
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2005-07-06

And newer versions of Photoshop can work with vector objects, so the image may not have needed to be rasterized at all.

I've personally wondered why they still keep Illustrator around. Why not just add the illustrator tools to photoshop? I don't know any artist who works purely in illustrator, every single one of them starts in illustrator and finish their drawing in photoshop, because illustrator lacks certain features or those features are too much of a pain to use. So why not just get rid of illustrator.

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RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF
by smashIt on Wed 19th Nov 2008 22:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF"
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2005-07-06

Why not just add the illustrator tools to photoshop?


why only sell 1 tool if you can sell 2?

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RE[3]: Comment by FunkyELF
by StephenBeDoper on Thu 20th Nov 2008 17:13 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by FunkyELF"
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2005-07-06

I've personally wondered why they still keep Illustrator around. Why not just add the illustrator tools to photoshop? I don't know any artist who works purely in illustrator, every single one of them starts in illustrator and finish their drawing in photoshop, because illustrator lacks certain features or those features are too much of a pain to use. So why not just get rid of illustrator.


I think Adobe has been moving in that direction for the last few years, with improvements to Photoshop's vector tools.

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Out of curiosity...
by suryad on Wed 19th Nov 2008 20:09 UTC
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2005-07-09

For the CS4 suite what was the disk space consumption...the reason why I ask is I am running out of my space on some of my partitions and so I was wondering what stuff to move around. Thanks in advance!

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RE: Out of curiosity...
by Eugenia on Wed 19th Nov 2008 20:59 UTC in reply to "Out of curiosity..."
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2005-06-28

Several gibabytes, about 5-6 I think. You can customize what you want installed though.

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Broken Installer
by Shannara on Wed 19th Nov 2008 23:45 UTC
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2005-07-06

Adobe forgot to test the installer on 64bit systems (aka Vista).

The installer dies once it tries to install Photoshop (64bit). Keeps locking up, forcing a reboot. Adobe pulls the usual stunts (uhh, I dunno).

So ... this product CS4, is probably good on 32bit system, but right now, 64bit systems are out in the cold.

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RE: Broken Installer
by Eugenia on Wed 19th Nov 2008 23:49 UTC in reply to "Broken Installer"
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2005-06-28

I installed the DVDs on a Vista 64bit system, so I have first hand experience. It worked just fine, out of the box. However, I did hear something about a broken installer, and there's a fix for it. I suggest you look for it.

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RE[2]: Broken Installer
by Shannara on Thu 20th Nov 2008 01:25 UTC in reply to "RE: Broken Installer"
Shannara Member since:
2005-07-06

Its weird that my adobe support rep doesnt know anything about the installer problem, and never heard of the patch.

The support forums and ticket histories doesnt mention a thing ..

Where did you find this fix?

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RE[3]: Broken Installer
by Eugenia on Thu 20th Nov 2008 01:40 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Broken Installer"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

I didn't find a fix, I just think I heard of something like it. As I said, my installation worked perfectly. Maybe there's something wrong with your installation of Vista64, or your PC's hardware.

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