Linked by Rahul on Thu 20th Nov 2008 04:31 UTC
Linux Arjan van de Ven from Intel Open source centre has posted the news that http://kerneloops.org has recorded its 100,000 oops. An oops in the Linux kernel is a deviation from correct behavior of the Linux kernel which produces a certain error log. kerneloops is a client side software that helps record oops more automatically on the website with the same name and is available as part of many distribution repositories and even included by default in Fedora. This is part of the QA efforts in the Linux kernel and when posting the news, Arjan has noted that Linux kernel developers have been fixes most of the top oopses quickly
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Good Job!
by Ford Prefect on Thu 20th Nov 2008 07:27 UTC
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2006-01-16

This is actually very nice. Too bad that fatal oopses can't be reported the same way ;-)

Interesting is that most of the oopses seem to come from binary-only parts (external blob drivers)

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RE: Good Job!
by evangs on Thu 20th Nov 2008 07:37 UTC in reply to "Good Job!"
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2005-07-07


Interesting is that most of the oopses seem to come from binary-only parts (external blob drivers)


Is that unexpected when you have binary code targetting a constantly changing interface?

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RE[2]: Good Job!
by Sodki on Thu 20th Nov 2008 08:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Good Job!"
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2005-11-10

Is that unexpected when you have binary code targetting a constantly changing interface?

The problem is not the changing interface, but the lack of peer review. That's why Free Software drivers don't oops the kernel so much and they also have to deal with changing interfaces.

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RE[3]: Good Job!
by DrillSgt on Thu 20th Nov 2008 13:37 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Good Job!"
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2005-12-02

"The problem is not the changing interface, but the lack of peer review. That's why Free Software drivers don't oops the kernel so much and they also have to deal with changing interfaces."

The interface does change. The peer review helps, however the people writing the majority of the drivers for Linux are kernel developers, so would be aware of the changes. That is actually why free software drivers do not oops the kernel as much as binary. Please correct me if I am wrong, as I very well could be not being involved in kernel development at all.

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RE[3]: Good Job!
by evangs on Thu 20th Nov 2008 18:49 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Good Job!"
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2005-07-07

Yes, the lack of peer review would definitely explain why nVidia has delivered the best OpenGL driver for Linux.

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RE[4]: Good Job!
by slight on Thu 20th Nov 2008 20:50 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Good Job!"
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2006-09-10

Most fully featured perhaps, but it's hardly the most stable driver, which is after all what's being discussed here.

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RE[4]: Good Job!
by aunzim on Fri 21st Nov 2008 08:34 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Good Job!"
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2008-07-25

Nvidia driver has bugs for years, seen what happened to kde 4 when tried to deliver a better accelerated desktop. You may say that was kde bug but there are proof on the contrary. If it was a open driver it would be fixed at the month

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RE[2]: Good Job!
by Yagami on Thu 20th Nov 2008 10:23 UTC in reply to "RE: Good Job!"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

yeah , if they kept the interface stable, at least they could paint the screen Blue and print some hex numbers !!!

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in short
by l3v1 on Thu 20th Nov 2008 09:59 UTC
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2005-07-06

[edit:sorry wrong thread]

Edited 2008-11-20 10:11 UTC

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Typo
by WereCatf on Thu 20th Nov 2008 11:03 UTC
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2006-02-15

have been fixes most of the top oopses quickly

Should read "have been fixing" or just "fix" ("fixes" if you wish to imitate the British english.)

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RE: Typo
by lord_rob on Thu 20th Nov 2008 13:08 UTC in reply to "Typo"
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2005-08-06

Not fixES as it's plural (the Intel developerS)

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RE: Typo
by slight on Thu 20th Nov 2008 20:52 UTC in reply to "Typo"
slight Member since:
2006-09-10

just 'fixing'. 'fix' and 'fixes' would both be wrong in that context.

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