Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 25th Nov 2008 15:35 UTC, submitted by M-Saunders
Fedora Core Fedora 10 is now available, sporting a new graphical boot-up sequence, OpenOffice.org 3, many improvements to sound support via PulseAudio, and other updates. See the release notes here, and Linux Format has a detailed look at F10's features and changes.
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Good!
by jokinin on Tue 25th Nov 2008 15:54 UTC
jokinin
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2005-11-07

Downloading it right now from a spanish mirror. Can't wait to install it on a spare partition i freed for Fedora.
I'm anxious to see if it has got better in making codec/drivers install easier and if it is possible to upgrade a Fedora 9 install via the Internet.

Edited 2008-11-25 15:55 UTC

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RE: Good!
by siki_miki on Tue 25th Nov 2008 16:19 UTC in reply to "Good!"
siki_miki Member since:
2006-01-17


I'm anxious to see if it has got better in making codec/drivers install easier and if it is possible to upgrade a Fedora 9 install via the Internet.


Just visit rpmfusion.org site, then download and install a rpm for yum setup of their repo. It's a successor to Livna and few other unofficial repositories which had codecs and similar semi-legal stuff.

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Codecs
by VistaUser on Tue 25th Nov 2008 17:03 UTC in reply to "Good!"
VistaUser Member since:
2008-03-08

I tested the new codec stuff and it more or less works, with a small hitch.

I installed the rpmfusion releases (free and non-free), and tried to play a media file. I got the message that it needed additional software. within a few clicks it found codecs, theor dependencies and installed them. However, there was still no picture, and I got an error of a missing codec.

When I tried to play that same file the second time, it now mentioned that the codec was missing, and clicking through again, it installed that one file and the video played correctly.

so, it works, but you may have to go through it twice. (I would suspect there is probably an incorrect dependency in some rpmfusion package, but I am not a developer).

Other than that, great release. Its pretty and it works.

Packagekit is also very usable and much improved over what came by default in Fedora 9 - it is starting to show its potential, something I did not really believe would happen when it was first announced over a year ago.

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RE: Codecs
by rockwell on Wed 26th Nov 2008 15:07 UTC in reply to "Codecs"
rockwell Member since:
2005-09-13

//so, it works, but you may have to go through it twice. //

That's "working" ??? Wow ... and people bash Windows ...

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RPM Fusion free and nonfree repos
by justinc on Tue 25th Nov 2008 16:15 UTC
justinc
Member since:
2006-07-24

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-November/m...

To make RPM Fusion repositories available on a freshly installed Fedora
10 system run the following command:

{{{
| $ su -c 'rpm -ivh
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-s...
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-rel...'
}}}

You can also added during install following this:

http://rpmfusion.org/EnablingRpmFusionDuringFedoraInstall

Edited 2008-11-25 16:25 UTC

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ATI Radeon problems
by justinc on Tue 25th Nov 2008 16:42 UTC
justinc
Member since:
2006-07-24

In case you miss this in the release notes. I have an x300 in one of my laptop's and it bites me...

Just add nomodeset to the kernel boot line.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/Common

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10preview/en_US/What_i...

Reply Score: 4

awesome
by 2501 on Tue 25th Nov 2008 19:26 UTC
2501
Member since:
2005-07-14

Well, so far, everything is working perfect. It downloaded the codecs automatically and Firefox is running without a hitch.

My only question is that I installed JRE(java runtime
environment) but for some reason it does not with Firefox. I tried to play chess at http://www.chessica.de/jchess/jchess.html but it is not doing anything and is still asking for JRE. Any suggestions?

JRE and Opera are working perfect which I found odd.

By the way, I am keeping Fedora. I think, killer features as Full Hard Drive Encryption, SElinux and
Package kit makes it a mean distro.

-2501

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RE: awesome
by Maners on Tue 25th Nov 2008 19:53 UTC in reply to "awesome"
Maners Member since:
2005-07-26

You don't need to install JRE (from Sun website) as Java comes with Fedora. You just need to install the web plugin with:

yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin

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RE[2]: awesome
by Dryhte on Tue 25th Nov 2008 20:24 UTC in reply to "RE: awesome"
Dryhte Member since:
2008-02-05

Openjdk != Sun java...

For instance, SAP's gui for java doesn't work with openjdk and requires sun's Java implementation.

I can imagine that many other software packages aren't compatible with openjdk either.

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RE[3]: awesome
by sbergman27 on Tue 25th Nov 2008 20:51 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: awesome"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

For instance, SAP's gui for java doesn't work with openjdk and requires sun's Java implementation.

Ahh, the joys of WORA! ;-)

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RE[4]: awesome
by Kokopelli on Tue 25th Nov 2008 22:02 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: awesome"
Kokopelli Member since:
2005-07-06

While I agree WORA is not really true in this case I blame OpenJDK. I have a number of applications that work fine in Sun's JDK, IBM's JDK, and JRockit but not OpenJDK. Especially stuff that stresses permgen space (like J2EE portal conatiners and eclipse with a large number of plugins) seems to have problems with OpenJDK.

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RE[3]: awesome
by fitzsim on Wed 26th Nov 2008 00:29 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: awesome"
fitzsim Member since:
2008-11-26

You may want to retry SAP's GUI on the Fedora 10 version of java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin. Red Hat did a lot of work to make IcedTea's plugin much more compatible in this release.

See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LiveConnect for details.

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RE[2]: awesome
by 2501 on Tue 25th Nov 2008 23:14 UTC in reply to "RE: awesome"
2501 Member since:
2005-07-14

oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks! It is working perfect!

I will be playing chess all night long.

Fedora 10 rules.

-2501

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The sun?
by h3rman on Tue 25th Nov 2008 21:59 UTC
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Member since:
2006-08-09

So that's the sun on the default wallpaper.. I'm sure it must be, but doesn't it now also look a bit like those microscopic images of a human ovum surrounded by all those millions of eager sperm cells trying to get in or already too late to get in..?
Subliminal message there, Red Hat? :-P

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Needs more research
by DrillSgt on Tue 25th Nov 2008 22:24 UTC
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Member since:
2005-12-02

FTA:

"Another key feature of Fedora 10 is OpenOffice.org 3.0, making Fedora the first major distro to include it in the DVD install."

Mandriva 2009 was the first major distribution to include OpenOffice.org 3.0. Unless Mandriva is not counted as a major distribution??

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RE: Needs more research
by jackson on Tue 25th Nov 2008 22:35 UTC in reply to "Needs more research"
jackson Member since:
2005-06-29

Mandriva 2009 was the first major distribution to include OpenOffice.org 3.0. Unless Mandriva is not counted as a major distribution??


According to Distrowatch, Mandriva shipped with a release candidate of OO.o 3.0 and not 3.0 final:

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mandriva

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RE[2]: Needs more research
by DrillSgt on Tue 25th Nov 2008 22:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Needs more research"
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

"According to Distrowatch, Mandriva shipped with a release candidate of OO.o 3.0 and not 3.0 final:"

My bad. ;)

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RE[3]: Needs more research
by VistaUser on Tue 25th Nov 2008 23:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Needs more research"
VistaUser Member since:
2008-03-08

I would assume that they have since issued a update for the full thing since, no? (I have not checked, but I would expect an update from an RC - which should more or less have the same features anyway - to the final.)

All the original wording was doing was picking out Ubuntu, but without calling it by name.

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RE[4]: Needs more research
by DrillSgt on Tue 25th Nov 2008 23:43 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Needs more research"
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

"I would assume that they have since issued a update for the full thing since, no?"

Yes, an update has been issued since. It still makes the article correct as it states it is on the install DVD. Technicality gets it ;)

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LIVE USB image?
by John Blink on Wed 26th Nov 2008 03:24 UTC
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Member since:
2005-10-11

I have a 10" eeepc is there an official image or a spin so that I could install it via usb key? or usb hdd?

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RE: LIVE USB image?
by Rahul on Wed 26th Nov 2008 05:09 UTC in reply to "LIVE USB image?"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

There is no separate image. We try to integrate changes directly within upstream and inherit those changes within Fedora. So just use the regular live image and it should work fine with some caveats such as the wireless in the newer model requiring a kmod from rpmfusion.

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RE[2]: LIVE USB image?
by John Blink on Wed 26th Nov 2008 07:58 UTC in reply to "RE: LIVE USB image?"
John Blink Member since:
2005-10-11

Thanks.

So just use the regular live image and it should work fine with some caveats such as the wireless in the newer model requiring a kmod from rpmfusion.


Is that why I didn't have wireless working ootb on the latest Ubuntu.

Any website you could refer me to about how to install that kmod from rpmfusion?

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RE[3]: LIVE USB image?
by Rahul on Wed 26th Nov 2008 08:51 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: LIVE USB image?"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration

Install the rpmfusion-free release package to enable the repository and yum install akmod-rt2860

That should do that job.

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RE[4]: LIVE USB image?
by John Blink on Wed 26th Nov 2008 12:45 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: LIVE USB image?"
John Blink Member since:
2005-10-11

Thanks.

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Upstream
by Rahul on Wed 26th Nov 2008 05:12 UTC
Rahul
Member since:
2005-07-06

"Despite this, many of the new features appear to be things that originate from upstream, and as such, will find their way (or have found their way) to other distributions as well"

True. Of note is that Fedora itself is essentially upstream or Fedora developers are primary maintainers of many many key components of upstream projects and we try to push all our changes upstream and stay close to the original sources.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview

So if all the changes get to other distributions as well, it certainly helps our goals.

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Love stable releases like this one
by zaine_ridling on Wed 26th Nov 2008 07:46 UTC
zaine_ridling
Member since:
2007-05-13

With a stable release like this one in Fedora 10, it's a relief and time-saver. A guy like me who has a relatively new system can set it up for the next 12-18 months and not touch it.

I was surprised it loaded my ATI 4870 drivers. Holy crap. And the KDE version is also stabilized. None of the twitchiness that kubuntu 8.10 still has.

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Bending Unit Member since:
2005-07-06

How do you know it's stable when it's only been out for about a day?

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John Blink Member since:
2005-10-11

How do you know it's stable when it's only been out for about a day?


My personal experience is every past fedora release starting with FC1, I always had a complaint about something.

This release so far no complaints. (BTW not calling it perfect)

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h3rman Member since:
2006-08-09

You're so generous. ;-)

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fithisux Member since:
2006-01-22

My friends are impressed by speed polish and .... advanced features. Even Windows/OSX-friends were impressed. Though no 3D I use a VolariV3XT which is not supported by XGI under Linux. The XORG driver is marvelous.

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