Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Dec 2008 23:31 UTC
Windows In late October, Microsoft announced the beta of the second service pack for Windows Vista and Server 2008. This beta was limited in audience, and today Microsoft has fixed that: it opened up the beta for MSDN and TechNet subscribers, and coming Thursday, it will be opened to the general public. The releases will be distributed via TechNet.
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Comment by flanque
by flanque on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 02:50 UTC
flanque
Member since:
2005-12-15

New hardware support is good, but I'd really like to see them to something really serious on the performance side. If they can say that Windows 7 will be faster than Vista then why cannot they put these improvements into Vista?

These service packs don't really seem that thrilling to me. I'll still stick with XP for the time being unless there's some significant performance improvements.

RE: Comment by flanque
by lemur2 on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 03:08 UTC in reply to "Comment by flanque"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

New hardware support is good, but I'd really like to see them to something really serious on the performance side. If they can say that Windows 7 will be faster than Vista then why cannot they put these improvements into Vista? These service packs don't really seem that thrilling to me. I'll still stick with XP for the time being unless there's some significant performance improvements.


If Microsoft fix Vista, then why would you buy Windows 7?

RE[2]: Comment by flanque
by flanque on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 03:15 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by flanque"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

Gee, I don't know. Perhaps by adding some of the features that Vista missed out on?

RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by lemur2 on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 03:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Gee, I don't know. Perhaps by adding some of the features that Vista missed out on?


Sorry, but that doesn't address the question I put.

Here ... I'll ask it again ... "If Microsoft fix Vista, then why would you buy Windows 7?"

You actually gave me a reason for buying Windows 7 if Microsoft DON'T fix Vista.

... assuming of course that Windows 7 is any good. By all reports it is merely a polished-up version of Vista. It will still be written to satisfy the best interests of Microsoft and business partners, rather than the best interests of the end users who are expected to actually pay for it.

Edited 2008-12-03 03:39 UTC

RE[4]: Comment by flanque
by flanque on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 04:00 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by flanque"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

Huh? Give you a reason to buy Windows 7 and then when I do you say no I didn't, yet tell me I did?

Sorry, you make no sense.

v RE[5]: Comment by flanque
by lemur2 on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 04:44 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by flanque"
RE[6]: Comment by flanque
by poundsmack on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 06:27 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by flanque"
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

hush the both of you. the fact is microsoft IS doing some preformance tuning in SP2. http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1745

now as for why you would by windows 7 even if they fixed up vista's speed issue and resource issue is simple. new features, changes to the way it handles SSD's, interface, better 64 bit support, etc...

and, as someone who has been testing both windows 7 and vista sp2 i can tell you that even in beta form sp2 installed vista feel snappier than before. and windows 7, well, it just rocks, people are not going ot be disapointed. well MS haters will be, since they will have one less thing to hate about ;)

RE[7]: Comment by flanque
by satan666 on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 16:36 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by flanque"
satan666 Member since:
2008-04-18

...and, as someone who has been testing both windows 7 and vista sp2 i can tell you that even in beta form sp2 installed vista feel snappier than before. and windows 7, well, it just rocks, people are not going to be disappointed. well MS haters will be, since they will have one less thing to hate about ;)


Well, I think people don't hate MS because Vista sucks (which it does actually). People hate MS because of MS' business conduct and ethics (or lack of).

RE[6]: Comment by flanque
by flanque on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 09:17 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by flanque"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

You don't get it. I was referring to Microsoft adding the performance enhancements to Vista that are in Windows 7 (since there seem to be some) and the incentive to buy Windows 7 would be other features which were missed out on in Vista.

So yeah, I did answer your question, thanks.

v RE[7]: Comment by flanque
by lemur2 on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 10:12 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by flanque"
Vista is as fast as as Win7
by casuto on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 10:46 UTC in reply to "Comment by flanque"
casuto Member since:
2007-02-27

Vista is as fast as Win7, same kernel, same core.

v RE: Vista is as fast as as Win7
by satan666 on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 13:44 UTC in reply to "Vista is as fast as as Win7"
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

as of current Windows 7 is faster, though not by the wide margin that it will hopefully be when it is released.

v Staff Personal Attack; Better Arguments
by cyclops on Wed 3rd Dec 2008 22:46 UTC