Linked by poundsmack on Wed 21st Jan 2009 08:29 UTC
Windows The future of Windows is clearly Windows 7. But what if you could get a smaller footprint, way better battery life than Vista or XP (think days, not hours), and everything else your little heart desires already? You can, and even better, you have been able to for a while.
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Is this a viable solution?
by shotsman on Wed 21st Jan 2009 09:25 UTC
shotsman
Member since:
2005-07-22

If you want to run it for longer than 120 days you have to shell out just shy of $1000 for the dev tools, and $90 for each install you do with your custom image.

Yeah right. Who in their right mind is going to stump up this heap of $$$$$ when you can get perfectly workable Linux Live CD's for $0.00(inc tax) or even just buy an unused XP license from Ebay?

I think the Microfost marketing drones need to get a real kick in their backside if they think this is a runner in the long term OR is this a diversionary tactic to keep a few key customers away from the Linux Live CD Camp?

RE: Is this a viable solution?
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 21st Jan 2009 10:03 UTC in reply to "Is this a viable solution?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Do you see that point up in the sky?

That's the one you missed.

RE: Is this a viable solution?
by AbuHassan on Wed 21st Jan 2009 10:10 UTC in reply to "Is this a viable solution?"
AbuHassan Member since:
2008-08-26

See that URL in your address bar above?

Last time I checked it took me to a website that discussed different Operating Systems.

That's the point of the article.

RE: Is this a viable solution?
by Ford Prefect on Wed 21st Jan 2009 10:11 UTC in reply to "Is this a viable solution?"
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

I think the article is informative, as it shows that this product exists and works.

The problem here is that MS' sales division obviously doesn't see or care for any market of hobbyists using this "specialized" software.

The base price of $1000 with another $90 per install is obviously targeted at the business market. There it actually makes sense.

Still I'm totally with you that MS misses yet another opportunity to be competetitive with GNU/Linux.

RE[2]: Is this a viable solution?
by dmrio on Wed 21st Jan 2009 11:14 UTC in reply to "RE: Is this a viable solution?"
dmrio Member since:
2005-08-26

Yes, Microsoft do care about hobbist community: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/products/spark/defau...

RE[3]: Is this a viable solution?
by SJ87 on Wed 21st Jan 2009 11:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Is this a viable solution?"
SJ87 Member since:
2007-12-16

All the "latest" features of a ten-year-old OS (just ~five if you reset the timer at SP2), how nice. I'd certainly pay $1000 to get that.

Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

That's something, but the project says it's for "Windows Embedded CE". Not the same thing....

RE[3]: Is this a viable solution?
by Andre on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 19:18 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Is this a viable solution?"
Andre Member since:
2005-07-06

That links isn't working for me.

Missing something...
by phate on Wed 21st Jan 2009 10:20 UTC
phate
Member since:
2005-07-09

I would have preferred the article to actually have instructions (or links to them) on actually getting Win Embedded setup and bootstrapped on a machine.

EULA Violation
by cushioncritter on Wed 21st Jan 2009 10:29 UTC
cushioncritter
Member since:
2007-01-12

The XP Embedded EULA clearly specifies it is never to be used as a desktop system, so it would be impossible to get this legally licensed through an authorized reseller at any cost. (Perhaps the EULA also forbids me to even speak of this product).

With Embedded, one cannot install MS Office, although openoffice.org works well. Expect to spend a few days doing the "componentized build" where the components are determined by trial and mostly error, using a SQL database, it is probably faster and easier to build a Linux distro. from source.

It's funny to see a "real world" deployment of XP Embedded on "old hardware": to get maximum compatibility, one adds all the components of XP, and it runs just as slowly. As time goes on, the code base will continue to get fixes from the common Vista/XP/7 tree and will like all MS products eventually fail to run on hardware it once ran on, despite MS's "guarantee" of 10 year support for embedded.

RE: EULA Violation
by PlatformAgnostic on Wed 21st Jan 2009 13:34 UTC in reply to "EULA Violation"
PlatformAgnostic Member since:
2006-01-02

There is no common tree. All three products have different trees and the code in many areas has diverged a lot.

Very few self-contained fixes go back to XP.

When will the OEMs start using this?
by Moochman on Wed 21st Jan 2009 13:09 UTC
Moochman
Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm guessing the netbooks don't use this yet since Windows XP is still supported. As soon as MS drops support for that, I'm betting this will default to being the standard alternative to Linux on netbooks.

Simply awesome
by pandronic on Wed 21st Jan 2009 18:05 UTC
pandronic
Member since:
2006-05-18

That's simply awesome. It's expensive as hell, but I can see it take off as an alternative to Vista and 7 if it appears on popular torrent sites.

Not $90 per install I don't think
by slight on Wed 21st Jan 2009 18:39 UTC
slight
Member since:
2006-09-10

The linked page says $90 per unit shipped, I suspect that if you're only using it internally you don't have to pay that fee.