Linked by Rahul on Sun 8th Feb 2009 04:45 UTC
Fedora Core Fedora 11 Alpha was released a couple of days back. Phoronix takes a quick look "While a few delays were experienced by the Red Hat engineers and community working on Fedora 11 (a.k.a. Leonidas), the first alpha release of this popular Linux distribution is now available. The 11th release of Fedora will bring a huge set of new features and updated packages, with much of the work already being visible in Fedora 11 Alpha." "Starting with the installation, Fedora 11 is now using the EXT4 file-system by default but there is support built into the Anaconda installer for Btrfs, which recently entered the mainline Linux kernel."
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Comment by porcel
by porcel on Sun 8th Feb 2009 22:26 UTC
porcel
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2006-01-28

Fedora is really pushing the envelope on the file-system front. I can't wait to see Fedora or any other distribution include system snapshotting and directory snapshooting GUI tools that work with the existing file managers.

Has Fedora's KDE implementation improved or does it continue to look like crap? I stopped using it because years ago Red Hat seemed to go out of its way to portray KDE in the worst possible light with the way they configured KDE. Hopefully, that has changed now.

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RE: Comment by porcel
by Rahul on Mon 9th Feb 2009 02:43 UTC in reply to "Comment by porcel"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

Much of Fedora and especially KDE is maintained by volunteers in the community. KDE in Fedora looks and feels pretty much like the stock upstream KDE with minimal changes.

If you want to take a look, download the KDE Live CD

http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-kde

Edited 2009-02-09 02:43 UTC

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Thank you Fedora developers
by RJop on Mon 9th Feb 2009 05:08 UTC
RJop
Member since:
2007-01-08

Very impressive feature list. Fedora is the distro that drives Linux/FOSS forward.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/FeatureList

Edited 2009-02-09 05:14 UTC

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The Emperor's New Clothes
by ddd_ on Mon 9th Feb 2009 12:02 UTC
ddd_
Member since:
2007-03-29

This is ridiculous. Look at the features and tell me the difference between fedora 10 and 11 from a desktop users perspective. Or even between Fedora 7 and 11.

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RE: The Emperor's New Clothes
by Calipso on Mon 9th Feb 2009 14:08 UTC in reply to "The Emperor's New Clothes"
Calipso Member since:
2007-03-13

This is ridiculous. Look at the features and tell me the difference between fedora 10 and 11 from a desktop users perspective. Or even between Fedora 7 and 11.


too sick right now to look for specifics but how about:
- bug fixes
- security fixes
- speed improvements both boot time and general use
- quicker file system and experimental file system for the brave
- new improved tools(security tools, selinux notifications, package management, volume control)
- new versions of software
- new sound system (pulseaudio)
- improved hardware support especially wireless

I know this is a very generic list but I'm sure someone has specific version numbers if it really matters to you.

[edit]
and this is rather fancy too:

Fedora 11 also provides a preview of MinGW, which is an environment for developers to cross-compile their programs to run on Windows but being built on Fedora.

(yes, developers are desktop users)

Edited 2009-02-09 14:11 UTC

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RE: The Emperor's New Clothes
by Michael on Mon 9th Feb 2009 14:41 UTC in reply to "The Emperor's New Clothes"
Michael Member since:
2005-07-01

Who said anything about a desktop user's perspective? Sure a desktop user may not be able to see the difference between ext3 and ext4 but it's a major new feature. But if you really want to know, just reading the feature list provided above, I get:

20 second boot up
Support for finger print readers
Support for hotplugging audio devices (i.e. plug in your headphones and the speakers will automatically mute)
OpenChange - natively access Microsoft Exchange
Improved power management for reduced power consumption
and, of course, KDE 4.2 which should be a very visible improvement

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Boring
by ddd_ on Mon 9th Feb 2009 20:48 UTC
ddd_
Member since:
2007-03-29

What has happened between Fedora Core 5 and Fedora 11 for the desktop user? If this is it...

- bug fixes
- security fixes
- speed improvements both boot time and general use
- quicker file system and experimental file system for the brave
- new improved tools(security tools, selinux notifications, package management, volume control)
- new versions of software
- new sound system (pulseaudio)
- improved hardware support especially wireless

...its sad.


Who said anything about a desktop user's perspective?

Nobody. Thats my point. Thats why I find it totally unexciting.


But if you really want to know, just reading the feature list provided above, I get:

20 second boot up
Support for finger print readers
Support for hotplugging audio devices (i.e. plug in your headphones and the speakers will automatically mute)
OpenChange - natively access Microsoft Exchange
Improved power management for reduced power consumption

In short: New drivers and Exchange..
Oh yes and bootup tweaking

We could argue about KDE4.

(yes, developers are desktop users)

He yes. But if we would plan the desktop around them we would have vi and a shell ;)

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RE: Boring
by ddd_ on Mon 9th Feb 2009 20:54 UTC in reply to "Boring"
ddd_ Member since:
2007-03-29

By the way you guys totally forgot the "New Volume Control Interface For GNOME"!!
Man I've been waiting to control my sound in a different way.

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RE: Boring
by Calipso on Tue 10th Feb 2009 12:42 UTC in reply to "Boring"
Calipso Member since:
2007-03-13

So what kind of features/changes would you like? Have other operating systems changed something incredibly drastic?

What kind of changes did other systems make that makes you really impressed?

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Fedora is Bullshit
by cadcrazy on Tue 10th Feb 2009 18:01 UTC
cadcrazy
Member since:
2009-02-03

To me fedora is a bullshit beta distro and will always remain in beta

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RE: Fedora is Bullshit
by Starclopsofish on Wed 11th Feb 2009 04:01 UTC in reply to "Fedora is Bullshit"
Starclopsofish Member since:
2009-01-15

Care to elaborate? What exactly is bullshit about Fedora? I've been using Ubuntu for about a year, and to me, every release gets slower and bugs may be fixed, but 3 or 4 important apps (for me) break.

I recently installed Fedora 10 and after several days with it the only fault I can find with it is that Banshee is broken. Other than that, it's rock solid. If you're using a distro that's so much better than Fedora, I'd be VERY curious to hear what it is.

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