Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 20:10 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless In what can only be called "totally frakking awesome", someone installed Microsoft Windows 3.1 on a Nokia N95. By using DOSBox, Polish developer Marcin-PRV was able to install the ageing operating system on the Symbian-powered smartphone, allowing both operating systems to run side-by-side.
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Comment by flanque
by flanque on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 20:35 UTC
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2005-12-15

The use of this? Well, fun, mostly, and a sense of "why not?". I'd love to be able to run Windows 3.1 on my Nokia E71; not because it would make any sense, but just because it's cool.

You find that .. cool? Beer & sex are cool. This is useless and will just cause the chicks to roll their eyes at you.

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RE: Comment by flanque
by samw on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 20:48 UTC in reply to "Comment by flanque"
samw Member since:
2008-12-12

I don't think the point the writer was trying to make with this post was 'look you cool this is to grab chicks with!'

I mean it's hardly like your going to see a girl at a bar, walk over and say, 'Hey honey, I've got windows 3.1 working on my phone. Sexy or what?'. This isn't for flashing around (other than to equally geeky friends), it's just a little something to make *ones self* smile.

I'm sure everyone can infer(spelling terrible today, sorry) the rest of my point.

Sam of
inthebinaryrefinery.co.uk

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RE[2]: Comment by flanque
by WereCatf on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 22:25 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by flanque"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I mean it's hardly like your going to see a girl at a bar, walk over and say, 'Hey honey, I've got windows 3.1 working on my phone. Sexy or what?'

Actually... I'd be interested in a heartbeat to see that in action ;) Would be damn cool pick-up line ;) Not that I get picked up at bars, though, I ain't from the prettiest mold.. ;)

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RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 22:37 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Not that I get picked up at bars, though, I ain't from the prettiest mold..


Mind the audience here, Nita. You're a geek girl - you're rarer than a crash on a VMS system. And you're Finish. Then again, I'm not so sure you'd have any use for any of the guys in here ;) .

Before anyone spazzes out: I'm JOKING.

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RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 23:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

If nothing else, it would be an interesting variation on the old "Want to see my etchings?" cliche.

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RE: Comment by flanque
by xnoreq on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 20:48 UTC in reply to "Comment by flanque"
xnoreq Member since:
2009-01-06

I also don't see why this is cool..

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RE[2]: Comment by flanque
by poundsmack on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 21:23 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by flanque"
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

it's geeky cool. How would the readers at OS news, a site for operating system enthusiasts, not think this is kinda cool.

and beer and sex are not cool, beer and sex are awsome!

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RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by flanque on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 22:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

and beer and sex are not cool, beer and sex are awsome!

HAHAHAH

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RE: Comment by flanque
by Drumhellar on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 22:08 UTC in reply to "Comment by flanque"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

Of course it's totally cool. Rock stars are cool, right? Rumour has it that Kurt Cobain killed himself because he couldn't take win3.1 with him.

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RE: Comment by flanque
by zetsurin on Tue 24th Feb 2009 08:29 UTC in reply to "Comment by flanque"
zetsurin Member since:
2006-06-13

You find that .. cool? Beer & sex are cool. This is useless and will just cause the chicks to roll their eyes at you.


Oh lovely, a dressing down on 'coolness' and chicks by a fellow internet geek. Certainly grounds for declaring ones-self an expert on the topic.

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Slow news day...
by pantheraleo on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 21:26 UTC
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2007-03-07

I see it as mildly interesting, but not worthy of a front page news story.

I see it more as evidence that it must be a slow news day.

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Comment by me
by pandronic on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 21:41 UTC
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2006-05-18

No, this is beyond cool. This is awesome. You have to look at it in perspective. 15-20 years ago we barely had enough power to run Windows 3.1 on our desktops and now we can run it in an emulated environment on a portable device.

It really makes you think how far technology has progressed.

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RE: Comment by me
by pantheraleo on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 22:25 UTC in reply to "Comment by me"
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

> 15-20 years ago we barely had enough power to
> run Windows 3.1 on our desktops and now we can run
> it in an emulated environment on a portable device.

...15 years ago I was running OS/2 on my desktop and multitasking several applications at the same time. So no, we didn't "barely" have enough power to run Windows 3.1 on our desktops back then.

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RE[2]: Comment by me
by looncraz on Tue 24th Feb 2009 05:05 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by me"
looncraz Member since:
2005-07-24

...15 years ago I was running OS/2 on my desktop and multitasking several applications at the same time. So no, we didn't "barely" have enough power to run Windows 3.1 on our desktops back then.


Well, just because OS/2 could run well on a 286*X doesn't mean Windows 3.1 could do so. OS/2 could probably run on half the hardware and do twice as much :-)

I kinda miss OS/2.. but I found BeOS and haven't looked back except in nostalgia! Then again, I still get those old nostalgic feelings when running Windows 7.. oh wait... maybe that is nausea?

--The loon

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RE[2]: Comment by me
by Isolationist on Tue 24th Feb 2009 16:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by me"
Isolationist Member since:
2006-05-28

> 15-20 years ago we barely had enough power to
> run Windows 3.1 on our desktops and now we can run
> it in an emulated environment on a portable device.

...15 years ago I was running OS/2 on my desktop and multitasking several applications at the same time. So no, we didn't "barely" have enough power to run Windows 3.1 on our desktops back then.


15 years ago I installed OS/2 on my desktop and it was too slow to use, so had to revert back to Windows 3.1

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Back up a second...
by Havin_it on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 23:02 UTC
Havin_it
Member since:
2006-03-10

This is great and all for the show-off value, but I'm more interested in the fact that you can get DOSBox on the N95. That opens up a whole world of retro gaming possibilities (better than all the demo shite on N-Gage for my money) if it works well.

Anyone know where to find this? There's no mention of it on the DOSBox site.

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RE: Back up a second...
by AbuHassan on Tue 24th Feb 2009 00:39 UTC in reply to "Back up a second..."
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2008-08-26
RE[2]: Back up a second...
by Havin_it on Tue 24th Feb 2009 01:25 UTC in reply to "RE: Back up a second..."
Havin_it Member since:
2006-03-10

Thanks! =)

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RE[2]: Back up a second...
by jal_ on Tue 24th Feb 2009 08:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Back up a second..."
jal_ Member since:
2006-11-02

Download DOSBox for S60 here.


The DOSbox forum thread can be found here: http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=20708


JAL

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Comment by wigginz
by wigginz on Tue 24th Feb 2009 00:17 UTC
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Member since:
2006-03-03

I'd file this under the category "stuff that's fun to do, but once you actually have it running it's kind of useless."

Don't tell me I'm the only one with that category on my list of accomplishments!

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Win 3.1
by OSGuy on Tue 24th Feb 2009 01:20 UTC
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Member since:
2006-01-01

Why are the frames/phone borders in each photo different? Some are "gold" in color and some are "silver".

Why the photos that are showing off the actual Windows 3.1 itself are zoomed in so much to the extent that we are unable to see the phone itself?

Why isn't there a video footage of this? I am not saying this is fake but if you look closely and consider what is being presented, on the photos that are showing off the actual Windows 3.1, the phone itself cannot be seen.

We are only looking at the screen itself? The photos that are showing off Windows 3.1 are all the gold ones, the ones where the phone itself is not visible and only the screen is.

Edited 2009-02-24 01:25 UTC

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RE: Win 3.1
by AbuHassan on Tue 24th Feb 2009 01:50 UTC in reply to "Win 3.1"
AbuHassan Member since:
2008-08-26

I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be possible from a technical POV.

I'm gonna have a go at installing Win 98SE under DOSBox on my N95-8GB. I'll have to wait until tomorrow as it's ten to two in the morning here.

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Next
by charlieb on Tue 24th Feb 2009 08:30 UTC
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Member since:
2008-12-16

If anyone can read Polish feel free to fill us in on the details.

They got Windows 3.1 running on DOSBox. Next.

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Comment by error32
by error32 on Tue 24th Feb 2009 11:43 UTC
error32
Member since:
2008-12-10

Some time ago somebody already booted windows 95 through dosbox on a gp2x, I don't think this is more special than that. Besides that there is of course no practical use to it.

Edited 2009-02-24 11:44 UTC

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Comment by talaf
by talaf on Tue 24th Feb 2009 11:50 UTC
talaf
Member since:
2008-11-19

I find it kinda funny that people here marvel on wondruous projects aiming to run stripped down unusable version of Linux on several machines are fantastic and a great advance and everything, but someone running windows on those same machines is just meh.

Bias ftw.

I think this is cool, porting OSes to strange platforms always is, even if there are clearly little point in doing so ;)

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RE: Comment by talaf
by Ford Prefect on Tue 24th Feb 2009 12:33 UTC in reply to "Comment by talaf"
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

Most times these Linuxes turn out to be quite usable. There are many very interesting projects out there bringing new features to small/obscure devices based on Linux. "I see a command line" is only the initial step.

Whereas it is quite hard to find any use in Windows 3.1. today; and it is not even a pleasure to look at it.

Still I wouldn't say anything negative about this "achievement".

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Comment by Blackwizard
by Blackwizard on Tue 24th Feb 2009 12:49 UTC
Blackwizard
Member since:
2007-10-11

I am sure this is illegal.

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RE: Comment by Blackwizard
by weildish on Wed 25th Feb 2009 01:32 UTC in reply to "Comment by Blackwizard"
weildish Member since:
2008-12-06

I hope it is. I just want to see Microsoft go after someone for putting Windows 3.1 on his or her phone. Ha! That would be comedic.

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Cool ;-)
by TBPrince on Tue 24th Feb 2009 21:14 UTC
TBPrince
Member since:
2005-07-06

Freaking cool ;-) This is basically why we want to have smartphones instead of dumbphones: to able to do whichever crazy thing we can think of ;-)

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v Nope.
by nonamelive on Wed 25th Feb 2009 04:11 UTC
More impressive on a 1997 Psion 5
by Dave_K on Wed 25th Feb 2009 22:07 UTC
Dave_K
Member since:
2005-11-16

You could achieve the same geeky feat on the 18Mhz Psion 5 running EPOC, Symbian's precursor. That wasn't any more useful, but Windows emulated in your palm was a lot more impressive ten years ago.

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Zork?
by marklar on Thu 26th Feb 2009 10:44 UTC
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Member since:
2006-05-21

I'd be happy with Zork, but it would be a bitch to play without an E71

m.

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