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**smacking face against any and all hard and sharp surfaces**
And to think that I poke fun at people who use words, phrases, and grammar incorrectly. I feel like a hypocrite. A heretic. A lowly worm. I fervently try to avoid such linguistic sin.
At any rate, it's fixed. Thanks are in order.
:)
I'd really like to see the business plan for codeweavers. It never made any sense that they should "finish". What they are doing however is a great plan, string people along with endless promises of finally getting all windows apps to work but never actually get there.
Also, someone already said this but I'm pretty sure you didn't mean "frivolously". Maybe assiduously?
You can say the same thing about any piece of software. There is no end because the target is continually evolving. There'll never be a point in time where it's finished, but as long as it runs the applications its customers desire to run, I'm sure they're happy -- it's not like they're kept in the dark as to what works and what doesn't.
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/
Edited 2009-03-10 08:43 UTC
> the GUI of CrossOver is supposed to get a hefty overhaul
I think it's about time. Windows apps in Linux/Gnome look like Win 98 apps. Windows apps need the native GTK look and feel in Gnome. Same goes for Windows apps in KDE, I suppose.
Other than that, it's nice to see more and more apps supported. I'd like to be able to use DVBViewer and my Terratec Cinergy HT PCI DVB-T board on Linux though (but no Linux driver, it's not Codeweaver's fault).
Support for Outlook 2003 would be great - I would buy their product :-)
I use TB for mail, but Outlook voor my calendar. Outlook is one of the main reasons why I still boot into Windows. Its superior calendaring features still have no match in OSS. For example, try to attach (not link) a file to an appointment or task in Sunbird or Korganize. I like to attach files such as invitation letters to my appointments.
Codeweavers supports OutLook here is the link to OutLook 2007 in their appdb.
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=2841
They want to have OutLook and all other MS Office apps at a Gold rank, Gold means the application runs exactly in CrossOver as it would on native Windows.
I tried Crossover Games on my new Mac mini and without fail every game I tried on it had a major issue
(zoo tycoon 2, europa universalis 3, Rome, Total War)
I'm looking forward to giving the new version a go (keeping fingers crossed)as its a product I would like to support over the likes of vmware
The list of games you gave are all unsupported, so its going to be hit and miss, but from my testing about 50% of all the games Ive tested runs to some degree. Of course some are better then others. Over the past couple years their has been major improvements in Wine's DirextX and gaming support.
Their is a debate if Wine is now actually better at running games then Cedega, Eve Online ditched Cedega and told their users to use Wine as Wine has better support.
see: http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/wine/eve-online-ditches-li...
At the current development rate in another year or two maybe 75%+ of all games will run in Wine and this is in no way a small feat.
That is actually my experience, that most games run better in Wine than in Cedega. Granted, I'm not playing the latest and fanciest 3D wankfests and neither do I have an Nvidia card but the only came I can recall that Cedega ran but not Wine was Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project.
Indeed. This has been my experience as well. Wine/Crossover just plain works better than Cedega these days. Plus, I would use Wine (or even buy Crossover) rather than Cedega anyway, as I just plain don't like people who take open source code, enhance it and proceed to give little or nothing back. Moving to LGPL and ditching the leeches was just about the best move the Wine project ever made, IMHO.
I am aware the Games I listed are not officially supported but then again they are by no means new... I expect(wrong word, but you know what I mean)older games to be 99% working.
Would wine not be well served to halt chasing the latest and greatest (dx10) and get DX9 working with a high compatibility level
Edited 2009-03-10 14:33 UTC
Sadly, that's not a correct expectation. Older games don't magically start working under Wine just because they're old. In many cases they *do* start magically working because a patch for Game A also fixes problems in Games X, Y, and Z as well. So, it's reasonable to expect that *eventually* older titles will start magically working, but eventually may or may not be any time terribly soon. Trust me, we all want Wine to be a magical silver bullet. And some day it will be. But it's *bloody* hard development work. In fact, it's probably *the* hardest development work on the planet, bar none. And as such it just takes a while to make that silver bullet become a reality.
Cheers,
-jon parshall-
COO
www.codeweavers.com
I do not doubt the work done is difficult and impressive in its achivement thus far
What my point was was that (in my opinon) trying to get directx9 fully supported would be a better and help more people then running after the moving target of DX10
obviously i am but one man with one voice, but it could be worth asking the question and seeing what others say :-)




