Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 31st Mar 2009 13:18 UTC
Google We're six months after the initial release of Chrome for Windows, and we still don't have the promised Linux and Mac OS X versions. Jordan already detailed the progress on the Linux/Gtk+ version of Chrome not too long ago, and now Ars has done the same for the Mac version. As it turns out, Chrome for Mac is making some serious progress.
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Redundant?
by AbuHassan on Tue 31st Mar 2009 13:54 UTC
AbuHassan
Member since:
2008-08-26

Much as I like the idea of Chrome I can't see what I would gain from using it.

I use Firefox 3 on my MBP because of several extensions that I can't live without.

Granted, it's JS engine is slower than Chrome but if I needed the extra performance in that area I can already use Safari 4 (With adblock plugin) or wait on FF 3.5 and still have my extensions.

That only leaves one Chrome feature that isn't covered already, namely sandboxing.

Though one can't miss what one has never had.

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RE: Redundant?
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 31st Mar 2009 14:15 UTC in reply to "Redundant?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Much as I like the idea of Chrome I can't see what I would gain from using it.


I gained a fast, lightweight, and nimble browser - and that covers both the rendering engine as well as the user interface. It's not bogged down by useless crap like Firefox, IE, and Opera are. And, of course, the sandboxing for security, and the process management for stability.

For me, there's no other browser that even comes close. Whenever I'm forced to use Safari or Firefox (on Mac and Linux, respectively) I feel like I'm making a trip back in time.

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RE[2]: Redundant?
by r_a_trip on Tue 31st Mar 2009 16:39 UTC in reply to "RE: Redundant?"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

I gained a fast, lightweight, and nimble browser - and that covers both the rendering engine as well as the user interface.

For now. Wait until Google catches featuritis...

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RE[3]: Redundant?
by J.R. on Tue 31st Mar 2009 17:45 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Redundant?"
J.R. Member since:
2007-07-25

I gained a fast, lightweight, and nimble browser - and that covers both the rendering engine as well as the user interface.

For now. Wait until Google catches featuritis...


Sad thing is that you are right...sooner or later google will do like every other browser and add loads of useless crap...and then be just like every other browser with no apparent advantage over the others.

However, until then, Chrome stays my primary browser ;)

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RE[4]: Redundant?
by Ruahine on Wed 1st Apr 2009 06:38 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Redundant?"
Ruahine Member since:
2005-07-07

There is a slight ray of hope. One of the main guys behind the mac version of Chrome is Mike Pinkerton (which is who the article got a lot of the information off).
He's still the project leader, and longest serving contributor to Camino, Mozilla's Mac native browser which continues on with its goal of avoiding feature bloat. They are extremely picky about what features they add in this respect (though of course as they use gecko, whose development is mostly driven by firefox, they don't have complete control).
Hopefully Mike will be able to have some influence in where Chrome goes.

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RE: Redundant?
by leos on Tue 31st Mar 2009 15:14 UTC in reply to "Redundant?"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

Much as I like the idea of Chrome I can't see what I would gain from using it.


I don't really see the point either. On Windows chrome is nice because there is no good webkit browser there (Safari for windows doesn't count).

But on the mac? They already have Safari, so why have another browser? Safari has essentially the same JS speed, so that can't be the reason. And just to offer some improved sandboxing they are going to put so much effort into a browser?

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RE: Redundant?
by bousozoku on Tue 31st Mar 2009 15:18 UTC in reply to "Redundant?"
bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23

Much as I like the idea of Chrome I can't see what I would gain from using it.

I use Firefox 3 on my MBP because of several extensions that I can't live without.

Granted, it's JS engine is slower than Chrome but if I needed the extra performance in that area I can already use Safari 4 (With adblock plugin) or wait on FF 3.5 and still have my extensions.

That only leaves one Chrome feature that isn't covered already, namely sandboxing.

Though one can't miss what one has never had.


I'm not sure I would gain much from Chrome either but we're not the main targets.

They're trying to sell their services and they need a strong, supportive browser to do that. As with operating systems, you don't want your word processor to crash and take down everything else.

A problem with their word processing won't affect their spreadsheet, mail, or calendar and keeping disruptions to a minimum is exactly what a business needs. Google Chrome + Google Gears could be a good deal for small businesses that can't afford a powerful machine with MS Office on every desk.

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RE[2]: Redundant?
by JPowers27 on Tue 31st Mar 2009 16:10 UTC in reply to "RE: Redundant?"
JPowers27 Member since:
2008-07-30

Install MS-Office 2003 + Office Live extension. Then do something stupid like copying an Excel spread sheet into a Word Document as an Icon.

I was getting a 100% repeatable crash of Excel that left Word unable to do anything.

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RE[3]: Redundant?
by bousozoku on Wed 1st Apr 2009 02:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Redundant?"
bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23

Install MS-Office 2003 + Office Live extension. Then do something stupid like copying an Excel spread sheet into a Word Document as an Icon.

I was getting a 100% repeatable crash of Excel that left Word unable to do anything.


Is that really a surprise to you?

1) MS Office applications use a lot of the same DLLs

2) MS Office has quite often used undocumented APIs.

3) Was any non-MS application affected?

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RE: Redundant?
by OfficeSubmarine on Tue 31st Mar 2009 16:52 UTC in reply to "Redundant?"
OfficeSubmarine Member since:
2006-12-14

I can already use Safari 4 (With adblock plugin) or wait on FF 3.5 and still have my extensions.


I'd agree about safari 4, but I think the upcoming version of FF gets too much hype for speed. It's consistently benchmarked at about three times as slow as chrome 2.0 on my system. Which is still pretty fast compared to the current stable version of ff, but it's a pretty big difference between it and chrome or safari.

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hehe
by broken_symlink on Tue 31st Mar 2009 14:04 UTC
broken_symlink
Member since:
2005-07-06

"The renderer chrased constantly"

I was wondering what chrased meant, so I tried to look it up, but when I didn't find anything I realized it was supposed to say crashed.

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RE: hehe
by Liquidator on Tue 31st Mar 2009 14:36 UTC in reply to "hehe"
Liquidator Member since:
2007-03-04

Yeah, the "h" landed at the wrong place. Probably a bug in the author's brain. Please access Bugzilla to file a bug report.

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Tabs!
by Arno on Tue 31st Mar 2009 14:27 UTC
Arno
Member since:
2006-01-10

The way tabs are integrated seems far better (visually and functionally) then the safari4-tabs. It doesn't compromise the functionality of the tabs or the title-bar and doesn't take up to much space.
Looking forward to use this browser on my mac!

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Nice start
by MacMike on Tue 31st Mar 2009 14:46 UTC
MacMike
Member since:
2006-11-15

I'm looking forward to giving it a spin and since the sandboxing seems to be quite successful I'll definitely seriously consider making it my default browser.

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Google and privacy
by bolomkxxviii on Tue 31st Mar 2009 15:29 UTC
bolomkxxviii
Member since:
2006-05-19

I tried Chrome when it came out and really was not thrilled. When you consider the privacy issues (even when opting out) I don't see it as being worth it. If you really like Chrome why not try Iron?

http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php

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RE: Google and privacy
by technician on Wed 1st Apr 2009 19:12 UTC in reply to "Google and privacy"
technician Member since:
2005-08-03

I tried Chrome when it came out and really was not thrilled. When you consider the privacy issues (even when opting out) I don't see it as being worth it. If you really like Chrome why not try Iron?


If you download the latest Chromium releases you lose the Google branding and all the privacy issues (except the ones you can turn off easily under Options). More on it here: http://outerheaven.c-reality.com/archives/125-Chromium.html

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