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He just wanted a 4GB or 8GB MP3-Player for his car.
I looked at the Nano and it is 149€ in Germany.
It may have a superior UI, but all he wants to do it play his MP3s (nobody I know has ACC crap).
So I looked at amazon and found a Intenso 4GB MP3 Player with color screen for 32€.
It works like a charm and as a added bonus it has a standard Mini-USB port for recharing so he can use the power adapter from his Tomtom to recharge the Player.
iPod is not always the right choice (although americans seem to think so.)
I just advised a friend not to watch VDO and drive... Seems fair. Any mp3 player that you have in your pocket seems 'adequate' if your car audio has a standard jack.
Does that player support gap-less playback?
I have 12GB on my MP3 player all sorted under an artist/album folder sturucture, and quite frankly can't imagine a better way of sorting my music. In fact I went out of my way to find an MP3 player that acted like a USB mass storage device so that I wouldn't have to deal with a bunch of annoying apps trying to tell me how I should be sorting and listening to my music.
AAC is not crap. AAC is an industry standard used in the iPod, iPhone, DSi PS3, PSP, Walkman and other devices.
How is the sound quality? Reliability? integration with software on the computer?
Not trying to defend Apple here, but anyone knows you can go out and buy a cheap, no-name MP3 player.
That's not the point of the article. I've owned 4 iPods, none of which have failed. The current, an iPod Touch is more a pocket computer than just a music player.
All of them offer conveniences cheap players don't: a well designed interface to the computer, and integration with my car, allowing me to control everything from the steering wheel.
They may be overpriced, but Apple iPods do the job well, enough to warrant the premium.
Yeah, and even though apps like Rhythmbox, as well as other iTunes replacements, eventually work with the iPod there's always features that don't work with those apps. An example, the nano 4th gen has speaking menus (a very useful feature in my case), but only iTunes can generate them; in typical Apple fashion, the details of how the speaking menus work aren't revealed and haven't been completely reverse engineered yet. So, even though I can put music on it from my Linux box, its usefulness is considerably degraded for me without iTunes. This, coupled with the horrible problems I've had with iTunes 8.1, is why I sold My Nano a short time ago. I've got a UMS-compliant player now based on a file/folder structure, and I'm not going back to iTunes any time soon.
Uh, speaking menus are just audio files rendered using the OSes’ text-to-speech abilities and then copied to the device. The iPod is not synthesising the speech itself!
There’s nothing special about this feature at all, it’s been possible to do for all players since ~2001, but nobody seems to have thought of it until now.
I'm aware of what they are and the principle behind them. What is not revealed at the moment is exactly what files get generated for which audio files. It is not the same each time you synch, and the files appear to be given random names, and their associated entries in the database haven't yet been completely isolated. And actually, Rockbox had this feature long before Apple decided to overcomplicate it.
And I remember before iTunes I had to either manually drag and drop all the files I wanted to the device, or use natty sync software that never did the job properly. I used my MP3 player 1/100th of the time I ended up using the iPod.
For the very vast majority of people who want to set-it-and-forget-it, iTunes is the anchor which has got iPod where it is now. There were more feature-laden players than iPod when it came out, and still there are players with more features, but that is irrelevant when getting content on there is over complicated for most people.
The Shuffle is the single prime example of this. iTunes *made* the Shuffle the success it is. A million cheap flash based players existed before it, but the software experience was simple too impractical. The Shuffle took a simple idea everybody else had been fumbling about with, and made it simple.
What was it that the Creative CEO said? "I think the whole industry will just laugh at it, because the flash people--it’s worse than the cheapest Chinese player. Even the cheap, cheap Chinese brand today has display and has FM. They don’t have this kind of thing, and they expect to come out with a fight; I think it’s a non-starter to begin with.”
How utterly wrong he was.
Wow, drag and drop. That's, um, so complicated.
Difficulty of drag and drop is irrelevant. It’s not a step you should have to take. Imagine if every time you wanted to change channel on your TV you had to manually tune the channel in? That’s what drag-and-drop is like. It hampered me using the device massively.
Well, depending on the iPod you use and how much music you have, you'd most likely end up dragging and dropping anyway. i've over 50gb of Music and had a 16gb nano, and had a playlist set to synch with the Nano. But, that still required some user interaction (either dragging and dropping, or right-click and selecting add to playlist). Given my music is organized in Artist/Album/File structures anyway, it didn't end up being all that different. Drag to a playlist, or drag to a device. Not much difference there.
Well... The Windows version of iTunes (and Quicktime too for that matter) is slow, bloated, unstable, and an all-around annoyance, placing system startup tasks when you don't need them, and the like. I must say that the Mac version, by contrast, is actually quite nice for both iTunes and Quicktime (except for the latest version, 8.1, which has been a massive headache for me due to its constant crashing). I guess that's no surprise, but the Windows version needs some serious attention at this point.
As for the iTunes alternatives, they're fine... up until a new iPod generation comes out, usually. Sometimes, even a new firmware version will break them. Either way, Apple typically makes changes, not only to increase functionality, but sometimes it seems like they do it merely to try and lock out anything but iTunes from synching with the device. They're always unsuccessful, eventually, but it's still an annoyance if you get hit by it and your iTunes alternatives don't work for a while.
Actually the question was aimed at Thom, who as usual made the unsubstantiated remark.
Thanks for the response though. I use iTunes on both platforms and find it to be much the same for the most part. I do however feel your pain when it comes to the invisible startup dameons it installs on Windows. A number of times (with older versions of iTunes, I must admit) they have turned out to be responsible for hogging the CPU and hanging up my system.
The deal breaker for me (with the iPod touch) is its inability to receive a Shoutcast / Live Encoder stream. I did find one way to stream audio, but it seems to be more of a "push" setup - and, of course, it only works if you're using iTunes to manage all your music.
As far as I can tell, it comes down to a choice between: scrapping an existing audio library setup that I've had for close to a decade and move everything to iTunes, or void the warranty (and risk having the device brick'd) just to install VLC / MPlayer on it.
I can understand having no support for audio streaming over the cell network, but I'm just talking about streaming to other parts of the house using a local wifi network.
Apple has their own proprietary way of streaming with itunes shared libraries
They have practically cornered the market with this one - great features, battery life and price. It's getting harder to compete with these guys
The lab is basically just Eugenias' living room, right? ;-)
Ah, but you underestimate me. I have an office, with a gazillion of gadgets in it and enough wires on the floor to trip on and break a leg.
OMG, shuffling music by shaking the player, how cool is that? .-D
This review needs to be called: "Why I think the ipod nano is the best mp3 player" If you would read this without any knowledge you would think that this is the best mp3 player ever made.
No ogg/vorbis or flac support. 22 hours is normal and nothing special. The special apple usb connector means you need special cables for loading music and for charging. A stable mp3player is also nothing special and is normal for any mp3player. iTunes is far from the best music manager and not easier for most people than drag n drop(they have been doing that for 15years). iTunes also means that every computer that you connect it to needs to have iTunes to get music from it.