Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Apr 2009 20:47 UTC, submitted by Lennie
Debian and its clones Two new architectures based on the FreeBSD-kernel have been added to the Debian Archive. This makes Debian the first distribution, and probably the first large OS, to support two completely different kernels at the same time. "The two new architectures (well, better named OS i think, as they use a different kernel) are available in unstable and experimental. We do start out empty, importing only what is needed to get a build running. For this reason you will not be able to directly use it immediately. Please wait until they catched up, which I expect to happen soon."
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GNU / freebsd and hurd
by project_2501 on Mon 6th Apr 2009 22:37 UTC
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2006-03-20

1. If FreeBSD supports DTRACE then will GNU/kfreebsd support DTRACE?

2. Can someone summarise why the Hurd has not yet taken off? Where are they at? What is stopping them progressing?

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RE: GNU / freebsd and hurd
by KAMiKAZOW on Mon 6th Apr 2009 22:52 UTC in reply to "GNU / freebsd and hurd"
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2005-07-06

@1: DTrace and ZFS should be possible.
@2: Nobody works on Hurd.

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This is news???
by KAMiKAZOW on Mon 6th Apr 2009 22:51 UTC
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Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is around since at least 2005. At least the wiki page http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD?action=info was created in 2005 (scroll down).

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RE: This is news???
by Lennie on Mon 6th Apr 2009 23:08 UTC in reply to "This is news???"
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2007-09-22

suppositly it's now not just a port, but is strarting to look like it might be in the next release.

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RE[2]: This is news???
by Accident on Tue 7th Apr 2009 15:28 UTC in reply to "RE: This is news???"
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2005-07-29

Naw, I hope this help all some what.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD#Debian_GNU.2FkFree...

Seems like the NetBSD is coming alone very nicely. I hope they accept the OpenSolaris (Nexenta) soon too.

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What about Gentoo?
by lopisaur on Mon 6th Apr 2009 23:01 UTC
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2006-02-27

This is similar to Gentoo's FreeBSD project, http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/fbsd/

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RE: What about Gentoo?
by quarkvanlepton on Tue 7th Apr 2009 07:57 UTC in reply to "What about Gentoo?"
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2008-02-26

I would like one covering:

-Installation - I read it needs a BSD disk partitioning utility meaning not many people would be able to install it.

-Hardware Support - Binary blobs have been removed according to Debian(should've used a free BSD kernel instead of a FreeBSD one :p). How many things do not work that would in FreeBSD?

-Desktop Environment and Software - Does anything work at all?

Edited 2009-04-06 23:05 UTC

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Why?
by Kebabbert on Tue 7th Apr 2009 09:51 UTC
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2007-07-27

Why are they using another kernel than Linux? Is it because of the many shortcomings in Linux? Linux is buggy, says Linux Kernel developer Andrew Morton:
http://lwn.net/Articles/285088/

For instance, Linux is not that good on file serving, says a storage expert:
http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/sans/features/article.php/374...

I dont think the short comings are the reason. Did they change Kernel just for fun?

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RE: Why?
by marcelkoopman on Tue 7th Apr 2009 14:48 UTC in reply to "Why?"
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2007-03-23

Why are they using another kernel than Linux? Is it because of the many shortcomings in Linux? Did they change Kernel just for fun?

Its just a matter of providing options. There is nothing wrong with either kernel, its just the ability to choose. Which is very good.

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This is great
by marcelkoopman on Tue 7th Apr 2009 10:39 UTC
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2007-03-23

I really like this. It doesnt state when it will be available but I guess the installers need to be adjusted first in order to support ZFS.
Or this calls for a FS that supports both Linux and FreeBSD so you can boot between the two.

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What makes FreeBSD different...
by sbenitezb on Tue 7th Apr 2009 19:35 UTC
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2005-07-22

What makes FreeBSD different from Linux, or sets it appart, is it's a complete OS, not just a kernel. What would be the real reason to use just the kernel in Debian? You can have the real thing complete in one package. Plus the SysV way of handling init scripts sucks horribly.

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Why?
by kill on Wed 8th Apr 2009 10:31 UTC
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2005-11-03

Why would I install Debian and use a FreeBSD kernel? I'd just install FreeBSD. Period.

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Why not?
by spikeb on Wed 8th Apr 2009 13:58 UTC in reply to "Why?"
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2006-01-18

its another free kernel for them to support, and they aim to be more than just a linux distro

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RE: Why?
by SCHWEjK on Wed 8th Apr 2009 16:58 UTC in reply to "Why?"
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2006-04-05

I don't get this too. What are the (possible) benefits over FreeBSD?

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