Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 16th Apr 2009 20:30 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The Ubuntu team has released the release candidate for Ubuntu 9.04; we already covered the various changes and additions when the beta was announced. "The Ubuntu team is happy to bring you the latest and greatest software the Open Source community has to offer. This is their latest result, the Ubuntu 9.04 release candidate, which brings a host of excellent new features." The various other Ubuntu-derived distributions, like Kubuntu, have also had their RCs released.
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Erm
by DBAlex on Thu 16th Apr 2009 23:16 UTC
DBAlex
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2006-12-31

Why isn't this front page news...?

Or are you waiting for the non-rc official release...?

But good news anyway,

Also, does anyone have any suggestions as to whether it will be a good idea to use Ext4 with Jaunty... I've heard it's unstable (I've seen reports of file loss etc), is this still the case or has the stability improved?

Alex.

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RE: Erm
by Punktyras on Thu 16th Apr 2009 23:37 UTC in reply to "Erm"
Punktyras Member since:
2006-01-07

Tried beta release (x64) on VirtualBox with ext4. No show after reboot. Something wrong with grub. So tried with ext3. Everything's fine. I'll try to use JJ RC1 with ext4.
God bless virtualization...;)

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RE[2]: Erm
by SlackerJack on Fri 17th Apr 2009 00:00 UTC in reply to "RE: Erm"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

Most lightly because your boot partition needs to be ext3(grub doesn't support booting from ext4) and Ubuntu doesn't set it up proper. Fedora 11 sets it up as /boot(ext3) /(ext4)

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RE[3]: Erm
by ple_mono on Fri 17th Apr 2009 00:14 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Erm"
ple_mono Member since:
2005-07-26

I dont use a separate boot, but my root root is ext4, and i can boot jaunty just fine.

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RE[3]: Erm
by sbenitezb on Fri 17th Apr 2009 01:39 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Erm"
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

Grub supports booting from ext4. My arch is all ext4 and grub boots fine.

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RE[4]: Erm
by snakecharm on Fri 17th Apr 2009 07:47 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Erm"
snakecharm Member since:
2007-02-16

From http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904overview

Ext4 support in GRUB was provided by Colin King. If you choose to upgrade your / or /boot filesystem in place from ext2 or ext3 to ext4 (as documented on the ext4 wiki), then you must also use the grub-install command after upgrading to Ubuntu 9.04 RC to reinstall your boot loader. If you do not do this, then the version of GRUB installed in your boot sector will not be able to read the kernel from the ext4 filesystem and your system will fail to boot.

Maybe there is still some bugs with 64bit version?? I am really looking forward to have the official blessed version coming next week. I really love Ubuntu and Mark Shuttleworth is my idol.

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RE[4]: Erm
by priit on Fri 17th Apr 2009 08:35 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Erm"
priit Member since:
2005-07-06

Same here, /boot is ext4 and no problems with grub.

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RE: Erm
by phoenix on Fri 17th Apr 2009 17:38 UTC in reply to "Erm"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Why isn't this front page news...?


Are we going to have to go through this ever single time?

Page 1 stories include a "Read More" link where the editors write their take on the news item, and give more details on it.

Page 2 stories don't include the "Read More" link, don't have any extra insights from the editors, and are basically just copy/paste blurbs with links to the main story on whichever web server.

It's not rocket science.

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RE[2]: Erm
by darknexus on Fri 17th Apr 2009 18:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Erm"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

And, the story about the Ubuntu 9.04 beta release was on the front page. There's really nothing new to report from the beta to the rc in regards to features, so there's no need for an additional read more link and thus no need for it to be on the front page.

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RE: Erm
by Isolationist on Fri 17th Apr 2009 18:36 UTC in reply to "Erm"
Isolationist Member since:
2006-05-28

Why isn't this front page news...?

Or are you waiting for the non-rc official release...?

But good news anyway,

Also, does anyone have any suggestions as to whether it will be a good idea to use Ext4 with Jaunty... I've heard it's unstable (I've seen reports of file loss etc), is this still the case or has the stability improved?

Alex.


On the beta version I have found that the Update Manager freezes when installing a particular update, and this only happens when ext4 is used for "/" mount point. It doesn't happen if I use ext3, so not sure what this is, but will continue to use ext3 for now ...

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Complex
by OwenUK on Fri 17th Apr 2009 12:33 UTC
OwenUK
Member since:
2009-04-17

It's exaclty this type of conversation littered with jargon and highlighting the complexities of installation(I think?) that puts people off even trying Linux in the first place?! Made me laugh anyway...

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RE: Complex
by Ironhead Haynes on Fri 17th Apr 2009 12:57 UTC in reply to "Complex"
Ironhead Haynes Member since:
2006-12-20

Have you EVER installed one of the popular distros lately?
you really thought THAT was complex?
if yes, do you use your computer for anything other than playing solitaire?

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RE: Complex
by rramalho on Fri 17th Apr 2009 14:29 UTC in reply to "Complex"
rramalho Member since:
2007-07-11

These people were not talking about the default selections dude...

Try it if want, talk later. Don't talk cheap...

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RE: Complex
by SlackerJack on Fri 17th Apr 2009 18:47 UTC in reply to "Complex"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

I wouldn't trust any inexperienced user on Windows to go off the default because they can royally screw it up.

Edited 2009-04-17 18:48 UTC

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RE: Complex
by bousozoku on Sat 18th Apr 2009 00:52 UTC in reply to "Complex"
bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23

It's exaclty this type of conversation littered with jargon and highlighting the complexities of installation(I think?) that puts people off even trying Linux in the first place?! Made me laugh anyway...


Yes but you don't know the half of it.

I've been using the Ubuntu distro since 7.04 and having upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 using an Ubuntu disk from a magazine months after it had been "finished" and immediately downloaded appropriate updates, the thing still wasn't working correctly.

I went through the Ubuntu forums on my Mac, gasped at the daily additions to the "how did you installtion go?" thread and found the information I needed to fix the various issues.

I can still see grandma asking what went wrong and her response to the changes she'd need to make to get the box running correctly again. I could see her throwing the computer out the door along with some profanity.

Ubuntu needs to slow down a bit and look at what they're pushing out the door before reality hits the fan again.

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What are the setback of using ext4?
by om_rebel on Fri 17th Apr 2009 13:36 UTC
om_rebel
Member since:
2009-04-09

I'll be doing a fresh install, but have read many mixed reactions about ext 4. Is it truly stable enough to use, or should most stick with ext 3 on production machines?

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justinc Member since:
2006-07-24

I use ext4 on my asus eee pc 1000 and a x64 desktop with Ubuntu 9.04 * and have had no problems for months. I also boot off of ext4 too.

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gfx1 Member since:
2006-01-20

If in doubt use ext3.
Ubuntu did warn for ext4 on install time.

Replaced the motherboard on my pc, the xubuntu partition runs fine, the windows xp partitions crashes hard... (reboots)
So ubuntu is way easier than windows.

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Uh... okay.
by UltraZelda64 on Sat 18th Apr 2009 21:12 UTC
UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

I'm running the new version/RC now. Just installed earlier. Nothing surprising about it that I can see; a typical new version, with bug fixes and newer versions of programs. I don't see how this is news-worthy. Maybe an actual final would make more sense as a "news" story (but really, with Ubuntu's extremely predictable schedule, it would still be a pretty stupid "news" item unless it has some major new features...). With that said, I can't say that I'm disappointed so far; it's pretty much what I expected it to be.

By the way, I installed over my old Ubuntu system, formatting all system partitions but keeping /home unchanged. Using ext3, just to be safe, although /home and a few of my other drives/partitions are using XFS.

Conclusion: Not bad, but not newsworthy either...

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