Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th May 2009 14:59 UTC, submitted by R_T_F_M
FreeBSD FreeBSD's jails technology received an interesting new feature. "Add hierarchical jails. A jail may further virtualize its environment by creating a child jail, which is visible to that jail and to any parent jails. Child jails may be restricted more than their parents, but never less. Jail names reflect this hierarchy, being MIB-style dot-separated strings."
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v Why not in Front Page?
by francisco on Wed 27th May 2009 15:09 UTC
RE: Why not in Front Page?
by fretinator on Wed 27th May 2009 15:19 UTC in reply to "Why not in Front Page?"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

#1 - Asking "Isn't OSNews supposed to be about Operating System news? Why is there stuff about [cameras, text editors, etc, etc]" is a good way to get banned. The editors are SO tired of that question. You'd know that if you were paying attention.

#2 - The editors are also sick and tired of explaining why things are listed on page 1 vs. page 2. This time I'm not even going to tell you, you'll have to look it up yourself.

#3 - goto #1

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RE: Why not in Front Page?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 27th May 2009 16:24 UTC in reply to "Why not in Front Page?"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Not to feed trolls, but to explain from a readers perspective:

OSNews is nuts to soup Operating Systems. Sure there are other soup venders that sell similar soups, but the nuts help us to critique the soup with far more skill than your average soup jockey. And any other site that focused only on nuts would miss the perspective of soup eaters.

But I would be in favor of a subtle reorganization that would allow you to only see nut stories, if that's what you want.

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RE: Why not in Front Page?
by StuffMaster on Wed 27th May 2009 16:39 UTC in reply to "Why not in Front Page?"
StuffMaster Member since:
2006-12-26

I've made a similar comment before, but to play devil's advocate, the linked page is merely an SVN log; not that newsworthy methinks.

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RE[2]: Why not in Front Page?
by cykyc on Wed 27th May 2009 18:39 UTC in reply to "RE: Why not in Front Page?"
cykyc Member since:
2006-02-11

If this helps:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2009-May/000850.htm...

It's the discussion on the mailing list prior to the commit.

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RE[2]: Why not in Front Page?
by francisco on Wed 27th May 2009 19:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Why not in Front Page?"
francisco Member since:
2008-03-13

the linked page is merely an SVN log; not that newsworthy methinks.



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Newsworthy?
Thanks for the replies, but it seems whatever way the editors are choosing what goes into fron/page2 will never make sense to me.. I am just going to find another site for OS news.

I rather have few, on topic, articles on a site than have filler articlers I have zero interest in and that do not seem to belong to what the site claims to be about.

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v RE[3]: Why not in Front Page?
by jptros on Wed 27th May 2009 19:12 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Why not in Front Page?"
RE[3]: Why not in Front Page?
by fretinator on Wed 27th May 2009 19:20 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Why not in Front Page?"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

Thanks for the replies, but it seems whatever way the editors are choosing what goes into fron/page2 will never make sense to me.. I am just going to find another site for OS news.


"Lucy, you've got some 'splaining' to do!"

Articles go on page one when the person who submits the article decides to add their own thoughts on the article. It will usually have a "read more" link. Why the person decided to add their own opinions is up to them - maybe they felt exceptionally frisky that day, maybe their horoscope said they should write more words, who knows, they just do.

Articles go on page 2 when they have no contribution added by the submitter. They are just a link to the external article and some introductory text pasted in from the article. They might even be about how Apple OSX 11 will cure cancer, but they are still page 2.

In summary,

Article about taking pictures of fleas - with a comment by the submitter - page 1.

Article about Microsoft's open-sourcing of Windows 7 - with no comment by the submitter - page 2.

Is that really hard to understand?

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RE[4]: Why not in Front Page?
by silix on Wed 27th May 2009 21:17 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Why not in Front Page?"
silix Member since:
2006-03-01

... Is that really hard to understand?

it's not that it's hard, but it's a kind a distinction that the reader could not intuitively guess on his own, when one comes to osnews after seeing normal, and web based press, articles being grouped by relevance or topic, for a long time...

or, one may infer it after seeing all page 1 articles having a submitter comment and page 2 ones not having one, but unless one reads about it in a post from one osnews editor, one may think it's a sort of coincidence and not "the" reason - and an arbitrary and somewhat illogical distinction after knowing the rationale for it

personally i don't care much about it, although i found having to scan both page 1 and page 2 for interesting things on each visit, less confortable than before - but i'd humbly ask not to get too mad at those who come up with it...

sorry for the OT

back to the topic, this reminds me of NT 's ( win 2k and later) filtered tokens, in that the token belonging to a process (and initially coming with the same priviilege bits of the user who started the process) can be filtered to create a derived token with some or all privileges removed
although this appears to be less sophisticated (and complex) than nt's implementation, it's an interesting addition indeed...

Edited 2009-05-27 21:26 UTC

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RE[3]: Why not in Front Page?
by Adam S on Wed 27th May 2009 19:27 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Why not in Front Page?"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

Honestly, what part of all of this confuses you? The concept seems overwhelmingly simple to me and a few of your peers seem to have made a genuine effort to give you the details.

It starting to seem as though you are just looking for a soapbox upon which to complain.

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