Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Jul 2009 20:43 UTC, submitted by caffeine deprived
Windows Microsoft plans to use Windows Embedded to combat rival operating systems in smartbooks and a number of other devices meant to always be connected to the Internet that Microsoft calls CIDs, or consumer Internet devices. In this interview Kevin Dallas, the general manager of Microsoft's Windows Embedded business, discussed Microsoft's strategies for smartbooks and other devices, such as the company's Haiku concept device.
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Hubris
by bornagainenguin on Tue 14th Jul 2009 21:35 UTC
bornagainenguin
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2005-08-07

You'd think Microsoft would see the writing on the wall and at least get to work on making .NET Compact Framework more capable and to encourage more apps to be developed, or at the very least try to get a more robust version of Office and Media Player ready for WinCE rather than the old stagnant "pocket" apps they've been letting rot all these years. I won't even mention the joke that has been pocket IE...

While it's true that right now most linux apps lack visible identity and aren't marketable to the average user, once these ARM devices come out of the gate, are able to run the same apps as the other Linux netbooks and have double the battery life...I don't think it will be a pretty picture.

--bornagainpenguin

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RE: Hubris
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 14th Jul 2009 22:31 UTC in reply to "Hubris"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Windows Embedded != Windows CE.

Windows Embedded = Windows XP.

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RE[2]: Hubris
by darknexus on Wed 15th Jul 2009 00:45 UTC in reply to "RE: Hubris"
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2008-07-15

Windows Embedded != Windows CE.

Windows Embedded = Windows XP.


Anyone else starting to think of XP as that annoying little brother or sister who you can't get rid of no matter how you might want to?

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RE[2]: Hubris
by n4cer on Wed 15th Jul 2009 00:55 UTC in reply to "RE: Hubris"
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2005-07-06

Windows Embedded != Windows CE. Windows Embedded = Windows XP.


Windows Embedded actually refers to their entire line of embedded platforms. The .NET MicroFramework was even included at one point, IIRC. The identifier following "Windows Embedded" specifies the platform.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/products/whichproduc...

The CE-based versions of Windows Embedded are currently the only Microsoft embedded platforms that support ARM so bornagainenguin's reference to CE was correct.

CE is one of the Windows Embedded platforms Kevin Dallas addresses in the article.

IDG News Service: Where do smartbooks fit into Microsoft's product lines? Microsoft has said it will not support smartbooks with Windows 7, so what else is available?

Kevin Dallas: ARM has long been one of the prevailing architectures in the embedded industry, and Windows Embedded offers OEM (original equipment manufacturer) partners strong support on various mainstream architectures, including ARM, Intel (x86), and MIPS.

Device Manufacturers interested in getting the most complete consumer experience from their small notebook PC investment will want to consider Windows 7 Home Premium, which offers richer multimedia capabilities and visual enhancements. Windows 7 is designed in a way that any edition of the OS should be able to run on small notebook PCs with sufficient hardware.

In terms of specific platform and version, generally speaking, we believe that Windows Embedded CE is an ideal platform for CID development, but as always, we let the device developers choose the embedded OS they deem the most appropriate for their development.


Edited 2009-07-15 00:57 UTC

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RE[3]: Hubris
by bornagainenguin on Wed 15th Jul 2009 02:34 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Hubris"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

n4cer confirmed...

Windows Embedded actually refers to their entire line of embedded platforms. The .NET MicroFramework was even included at one point, IIRC. The identifier following "Windows Embedded" specifies the platform.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/products/whichproduc...

The CE-based versions of Windows Embedded are currently the only Microsoft embedded platforms that support ARM so bornagainenguin's reference to CE was correct.


Thanks for the confirmation.

--bornagainpenguin

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What Microsoft needs to do...
by license_2_blather on Fri 17th Jul 2009 02:08 UTC
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2006-02-05

...is put some love into Windows Mobile. What a stodgy, fossilized cow patty. Of course I only say that because Verizon (an equally, if not more, infuriating company than Microsoft) has no smartphones that run anything besides WinMo or Blackberry OS.

Seriously, though -- I have a hard time taking them seriously when they haven't brought their phone OS (a close relative of CE) beyond circa 2000. I'd prefer using something almost infinitely flexible, like Linux or a *BSD, or purpose-built (read, has good performance and fits the form factor) like Symbian.

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