In that order. There was no show last week due to Thom being busy with work so we had two weeks of news to catch up on. Obviously, Haiku has to be mentioned once more and we are joined by Mike Ferland, an OSnews follower, halfway through the show.
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Oh, and a port of Fire Fox http://www.amigabounty.net/?function=viewproject&projectid=44
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i am a firefox user and i never use opera but you guys just dont have any credibility in discussing opera browser ..what is the opposite of a fanboy? you guys are the opposite ..you are almost sounding like trolling against opera ..nothing but negativity from you guys ..i doubt opera can do anything that will please you guys so why bring it up only to shut it down?
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I have to use it on multiple platforms to test HTML/CSS with and I don’t find it to be, in my personal opinion, a particularly nice browser out of the crop of browsers out there these days. In the show I even said that those views were just my own and so that’s why I wrote the article http://www.osnews.com/story/22192/What_Should_Opera_Do_ to get other people’s views including the die-hard Opera users too, and they were all in agreement that something should be done to the product to increase its marketshare in America. Even Google Chrome, a johnny-come-lately is beating Opera so I don’t think either of us were being unduly negative about Opera—they need to seriously start making changes or risk being left behind completely.
Edited 2009-09-28 06:46 UTC
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No. They weren't all in agreement. At least I wasn't, along with some other Opera users. So don't say that all people is in agreement with you, it's a bit narrow-minded. You are not the center of the world (not just because you can publish a rant in OSNews or any other blog), neither USA is. I already said it. Incrementing USA market share doesn't really mean shit in this modern world.
Stop telling people what they have to do, as if you were CEO or something. I bet Opera does fine enough with its current size and share.
(Bolds are mine.)
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I agree with you.
Opera has a niche and has held it for a very long time now. Yes, it has to many features for someone, who wants "just a browser". But those people don't use Opera.
Opera has been the most innovative browser in the last 15 years: tabs, mouse gestures, speed dial, user css all debuted here.
Opera is multifunctional, while having a tiny footprint. This makes it very relevant in markets, where people have to use older PCs.
I think Opera should not go for market share right now. It should cater to its core audience. People that want lots of features and configurability. Maybe they could even return to the paid model they used to have. Making their browser freely available didn't help their market share much.
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That's a pretty pathetic article.
In fact, all your comments about Opera are inane.
Chrome? It still has less than 2% market share despite being spammed all over the web by Google and their online advertising monopoly. Google has bottomless pockets of advertising dollars, and they bundle it with other popular apps of theirs, forcing it onto people's desktop the back way. And yet it completely fails to live up to the hype. Like Opera, it is a minority browser. The fact that the tiny Opera Software can stand its own against Google's monopoly is quite amazing in itself. Opera's growth ACCELERATED after Chrome was released!
Also, Opera's user base is GROWING. Last year it grew by 65%. It has maybe 50 million users by now. And another 30+ million on mobile phones, making it the #1 mobil browser by far, and that's despite the iPhone and Palm Pre coming with their own browsers.
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Someone mentioned in some part, that some web pages won't show properly when using the iPhone, especially the UI.
This is not necessarily the browser's fault. The fault might be in the site's developers/designers, who have just decided to ignore mobile users.Which can be understood if the expected useramount is small.
Atleast what experience I have as a some sort of designer of websites, that you can do separate stylesheets or designs depending on what type of device the user is currently using. Therefore the developers should either build their sites so, that they are easily viewable on any device (which can set limitations to the site's appearance) with the default stylesheet, or then build separate stylesheets for mobile and computer users.
This should not be a huge bother, since designers are used to have to build separate stylesheets even for IE and Firefox also(which sucks by the way. Why can't we have standards in these sort of things? :/ ).
Edited 2009-09-28 22:10 UTC
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This is not necessarily the browser's fault. The fault might be in the site's developers/designers, who have just decided to ignore mobile users.Which can be understood if the expected useramount is small.
Atleast what experience I have as a some sort of designer of websites, that you can do separate stylesheets or designs depending on what type of device the user is currently using. Therefore the developers should either build their sites so, that they are easily viewable on any device (which can set limitations to the site's appearance) with the default stylesheet, or then build separate stylesheets for mobile and computer users.
This should not be a huge bother, since designers are used to have to build separate stylesheets even for IE and Firefox also(which sucks by the way. Why can't we have standards in these sort of things? :/ ).
Its my only one gripe with the iPhone really, i think everything else works pretty well out of the box. however, i notice most websites are not very iphone friendly. but then again maybe what it could be is the ipone's browser isnt very internet friendly... i wish mozilla would release FF for the iphone or even google making Chrome for the ipone would be sweet.
Alas, it ultimately is the webmaster's responsibility to ensure their websites work on these browsers.
but hell i wont blame them for not making it iphone compatible.
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Edited 2009-09-28 22:21 UTC
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