Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 25th Oct 2009 12:50 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Another week has passed us by, so it's time for another Week in Review. This week was obviously dominated by the release of Windows 7, but Apple was also in the news often, reporting yet another stellar quarter, and of course updating its entire line of consumer Macs.
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Actually I thought last week...
by AmigaRobbo on Sun 25th Oct 2009 13:23 UTC
AmigaRobbo
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2005-11-15

Was more notable for the Amiga news, Hyperion vs. Amiga inc. release of MorphOS for Mac Mini, updates of both their web-browsers. But then I'm a AmiFag so a little biased. ;)

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Success!
by k.g.stoyanov on Sun 25th Oct 2009 14:28 UTC
k.g.stoyanov
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2005-07-12

Windows 7 will be the next microsoft successor. It is better, and it is lightweight! That is what people say. Ok, let`s count how many people and organisations will repartition their hard drives to extend their 8 or 10 GB C:\ partitions with their working XP to 20GB required for W7..;]

Edited 2009-10-25 14:29 UTC

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RE: Success!
by AmigaRobbo on Sun 25th Oct 2009 15:01 UTC in reply to "Success!"
AmigaRobbo Member since:
2005-11-15

It is lightweight, well compaired to Vista anyway. It would be unsual for an OS released in 2009 to be lighter on resources compired to the 2001 version.

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RE[2]: Success!
by sbenitezb on Mon 26th Oct 2009 02:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Success!"
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

How can a modern OS with all things included weight 20GB? It's insane. It's only the OS with almost no applications, not much documentation, not a lot of drivers. What's in there to weight 20GB?

My entire Linux installation with KDE desktop, documentation and translations is smaller. And that includes compilers, runtimes, python, perl, ruby, ghc and a myriad of binaries and libraries.

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RE[3]: Success!
by Kroc on Mon 26th Oct 2009 08:51 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Success!"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Cache cache cache. When you can’t be fast for real, just use cache. The size of a Windows install is bloated by the page file, the hyberfile, the prefetch, the driver cache, the assembly cache (WinSxS), superfetch, and who knows how many other caches.

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RE[4]: Success!
by darknexus on Mon 26th Oct 2009 12:21 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Success!"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Don't forget all the temporary files and web histories that never get deleted, and the ridiculous amount of legacy compatibility still there, and the fact that most programs leave things all over, and the ridiculous size of a lot of Windows drivers and frameworks, and... well you get the idea.
I'll be fair though, a fresh install of 32-bit windows 7 seems to weigh in at around 7 gb or so, not 20. Vista on the other hand easily could take up 25 gb. I'm not sure which is smaller, Windows 7 or Snow Leopard, but I'd bet it's a close race. I still think 7 gb is too big for an os, not that it really matters in this day of large hard drives and even SSDs are becoming reasonable at larger sizes. Still I can't help but compare that to a full Ubuntu install with all the apps I need weighing in at about 2.5 gb, and obviously using an os like Arch you can really have a small environment that is just as functional.

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RE: Success!
by ssa2204 on Mon 26th Oct 2009 01:09 UTC in reply to "Success!"
ssa2204 Member since:
2006-04-22

And what has been the average size of drives over the past few years? Seems to me that people worrying about this piddly amount have other concerns than the OS in question, as the computer is probably old as hell as well.

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Fun week it was!
by Tuishimi on Mon 26th Oct 2009 15:43 UTC
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2005-07-06

My copy of Windows 7 arrived. I was bad and trusted (should have paid attention to comments on the web) "Windows Easy Transfer" to move all of my data.

On OS X the transfer utility covers all the data files from all the apps you use/used. Windows, as I learned, does not. It tells you that it does not transfer "Applications" but... I sort of expected my "AppData" folder to move with me.

Ah well. It is sort of nice to start with a clean slate... and I do have some backups should I need them, but I did lose a few days of email.

I wish I had a "computer room" where I could have racks of computers and run every OS out there. ;) I'd never get an work done tho'.

Edited 2009-10-26 15:44 UTC

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Sadness
by Lazarus on Mon 26th Oct 2009 18:51 UTC
Lazarus
Member since:
2005-08-10

I still have to say Boo Hiss to Apple for dropping their ZFS port altogether. I'm pretty sure it was for brain-dead, non-technical reasons.

But whatever, I've got lots of sane and open options for my future upgrades. I'm quite sure that FreeBSD 8.1 and higher will be very nice ;)

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