Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 15:45 UTC, submitted by theeb
PC-BSD The PC-BSD team has released the first beta release of PC-BSD 8.0. "The PC-BSD Team is pleased to announce the availability of PC-BSD 8.0-BETA (Hubble Edition), running FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE, and KDE 4.3.4. Version 8.0 contains a number of enhancements and improvements."
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Sounds good.
by Tuishimi on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 15:59 UTC
Tuishimi
Member since:
2005-07-06

FreeBSD 8.0-Release
KDE 4.3.4
Brand new System Installer, allows the install of PC-BSD or FreeBSD
Run in Live mode directly from DVD
Updated Software Manager, allows browsing and installing applications directly

Support for 3D acceleration with NVIDIA drivers on amd64

Might download and give it a whir (liveCD mode). Last time I tried PC-BSD (which I do like and actually used as a primary system for months before I got a new mac a few years ago (between computers)) it was not as I remembered it. But that is probably because I was running it on newer hardware... X was horrible, UI performance was slow and choppy with K on top of X that did not auto config to my system. Yeah, I could have installed better drivers and tweaked the config by hand but it kind of peeved me that I had to when the last time I used it, it was near perfect.

So... that being said I will certainly download and take another gander with FBSD 8 and better drivers for NVidia... looking like it could be a winner.

OH! And that is very interesting that they've added the option to install straight FreeBSD -OR- PC-BSD from their installer. Nice touch.

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RE: Sounds good.
by rhyder on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 17:10 UTC in reply to "Sounds good."
rhyder Member since:
2005-09-28

I'd like to give it a go but I gather that it has even more problems with proprietary tech such as Flash than Linux does. It also lacked a fully functioning virtualiser, although efforts were underway to port VirtualBox.

I might give it a try to see if there has been much progress because I'd like to try a system that makes a distinction between the base install and the applications. Kubuntu seems to be bleeding edge with the system components and conservative with application versions, and ideally, I'd like something that works the opposite way round.

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RE[2]: Sounds good.
by foldingstock on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 18:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Sounds good."
foldingstock Member since:
2008-10-30

In a default PCBSD install, Flash 10 is working out of the box. Flash 10 has been working on FreeBSD for some time now.

VirtualBox is available as a PBI package for PCBSD and is also available in FreeBSD as a port. VirtualBox has been usable on FreeBSD for quite a while now.

I have the new PCBSD 8.0-beta installed and it is looking great. Can't wait for the release!

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RE[3]: Sounds good.
by rhyder on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 18:29 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Sounds good."
rhyder Member since:
2005-09-28

Sounds like I need to check it out.

BTW, what is performance like for Flash?

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RE[4]: Sounds good.
by foldingstock on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 18:49 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Sounds good."
foldingstock Member since:
2008-10-30

About the same as on Linux. Not as smooth as on Windows, but usable.

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RE[5]: Sounds good.
by phoenix on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 20:41 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Sounds good."
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Every now and then, you may find that Flash apps are "frozen" or locked up. A quick fix is to issue a pkill npviewer.bin either at a command line, or via the KRunner run command (Alt+F2 by default, but I always remap it Win+R).

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RE[6]: Sounds good.
by Oliver on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 21:33 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Sounds good."
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

That's imho a story of the past, regarding FreeBSD 7.x. I haven't seen any problem with FreeBSD 8 and Flash 10 so far (AMD64 if this makes any difference while using it).

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RE[7]: Sounds good.
by phoenix on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 21:53 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Sounds good."
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Could be. I'm running 7-STABLE (post 7.2), with linux-f10, 2.6.16 ABI support, and Flash 10.0.42. Every now and then, Flash sites (and sometimes even Google Mail/Reader) will lock up Firefox 3.5 requiring the pkill trick.

Haven't upgraded to 8.x yet at home.

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RE[5]: Sounds good.
by nt_jerkface on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 23:29 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Sounds good."
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

How is Flash in Wine?

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RE[6]: Sounds good.
by foldingstock on Mon 4th Jan 2010 03:59 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Sounds good."
foldingstock Member since:
2008-10-30

Usable, but a bit buggy and slow.

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v PC-BSD
by marcp on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 21:04 UTC
RE: PC-BSD
by Oliver on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 21:37 UTC in reply to "PC-BSD"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

>It means that GUI acceleration and all of the eye-candy stuff related to new HW will probobly *not* work, or work in a crappy way.

It seems you're using a different system, propably not FreeBSD. KDE 4.x seems even snappier on FreeBSD than on many of the major Linux distros.

Reply Score: 4

RE[2]: PC-BSD
by marcp on Sun 3rd Jan 2010 21:46 UTC in reply to "RE: PC-BSD"
marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

"It seems you're using a different system, propably not FreeBSD."

Yes, I am an OpenBSD user, but I also use FreeBSD on some of my desktops. The fact is that I am deliberately not using eye candies, because -for me - it's obsolete and unpractical, just waste of the resources and an entry for new bugs - possible threat for stability and security.

"KDE 4.x seems even snappier on FreeBSD than on many of the major Linux distros."

No doubt it is. I was talking only about HW. It is obvious [for the ones that have used FreeBSD just once], that FreeBSD is faster than most OSs.

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what about gnome?
by ghostwunder on Mon 4th Jan 2010 16:11 UTC
ghostwunder
Member since:
2009-11-25

how's gnome support in pcbsd land?

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RE: what about gnome?
by foldingstock on Mon 4th Jan 2010 18:29 UTC in reply to "what about gnome?"
foldingstock Member since:
2008-10-30

how's gnome support in pcbsd land?


It is in ports and as usable in FreeBSD/PCBSD as in Linux. There is also a PBI of Gnome available for PCBSD for easy setup.

Reply Score: 1