Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Jan 2010 17:51 UTC
Games I just went out in the blistering cold (windchill factor -12) for a very specific purpose: a certain online retailer had broken the embargo on a certain product, and in the faint hope that real-world stores would follow, I figured I'd be able to get my hands on said product that way, too. What are we talking about here? Oh, only what will most likely be the game of the year.
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Never wanted to play Mass Effect, BUT
by kragil on Tue 26th Jan 2010 18:52 UTC
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

ArsTechnica said that the PC version was "lacking" most of the annoying parts of the X360 version. They called it the "definite version" and so I gave it a try over the holidays.

I have to admit it was good.

I also just finished Mass Effect 2. It was way better. No more Mako, no more long boring side missions. More purpose to getting the crew together and the combat is really polished. It is more like a shooter with a role playing story. Not really a RPG as I see them. The geeky depth is not there or better hidden.

Loading ME1 save games was only a little gimmick. It didn't really change the game that much and I didn't really like Vanguard class I played. I think Sentinel or Adept are better. I hated having to decide between assault rifle and sniper rifle ..

MS2 is really a great game with better replay value than most games. I usually never play a game twice, but I might consider it this time. But playing the stupid mining mini game to upgrade your ship so that you are better in the end is not for me. But that along with the slow loading and some short freezes are the only downsides to this great game. (And that you cannot change class when you want to play the same character for a second time.)

*Spoilers* The final mission is not as epic as in MS1, but the boss fight is a lot nicer and for a north American game the main character can be quite promiscuous ;)

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werpu Member since:
2006-01-18

Ok if it is more like a shooter then I will probably skip it, I hate shooters, Mass Effect 1 was just a perfect combo of RPG and shooterish elements.

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kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

Well, you can still micromanage your characters. I just didn't bother. I played it for the story and the action and had the computer do all the skill points and weapon selection etc. (One advantage of the PC ME1 version.)

I want my games to be short great action/sci-fi movies and ME2 was very good in that regard.

I think more shooters will get story elements of RPGs because it personalizes the game experience and adds a lot of replay value.

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flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

So is it more like Deus Ex with the mix of RPG and shooter? I LOVED that game and will absolutely get into this if it's like that.

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6c1452 Member since:
2007-08-29

Mmm, deus ex. I recently got a copy off steam to replace the old pirated one I had. Been meaning to replay it.

In my opinion ME represents the pinnacle of storytelling in games to date. I would strongly recommend giving it a try.

Edited 2010-01-27 05:55 UTC

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righard Member since:
2007-12-26

I know almost all spoken text off Deus Ex by hearth can that be considered a sign that I played it too much? Also, although I have not played the game in three years, I still no all the codes to the locked doors.

Too me it's the best game.

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flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

It was and still is a terrific game.

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

always buy the pc version of a bioware game. they are not really a console shop, they just port to consoles for the money.

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Toned down RPG elements?
by Malakim on Tue 26th Jan 2010 19:59 UTC
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2007-04-03

According to Ars the RPG elements has been quite radically toned down? If that's so I won't bother. I'll just stick with Dragon Age for now.

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RE: Toned down RPG elements?
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 26th Jan 2010 20:36 UTC in reply to "Toned down RPG elements?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I've only been playing for a short while, but what seems to be the case is that the *annoying* RPG bits have been toned down. Mass Effect had some tremendously braindead micromanagement (upgrades were a mess), and it seems it are exactly these annoying bits that they've fixed - by dumbing them down.

Considering many, many people didn't even use the RPG stuff from part 1 (that is, didn't apply upgrades), I don't see it as a problem. ME wasn't a pure RPG anyway.

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RE[2]: Toned down RPG elements?
by kragil on Tue 26th Jan 2010 21:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Toned down RPG elements?"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

They already fixed most of it in the PC Version (which had the advantage of coming out over a year later than the Xbox version)

Sadly Xbox players are sometimes just beta testers for the PC players, but the betas sometimes take years and years to make it to the PC ;) .. (Gear of war (2) and Halo 3 are other examples)

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RE[2]: Toned down RPG elements?
by Malakim on Wed 27th Jan 2010 06:10 UTC in reply to "RE: Toned down RPG elements?"
Malakim Member since:
2007-04-03

Actually, I haven't played the original ME I either. However, after hearing that it's evolved into more of a shooter (a'la Bioshock perhaps?) than an RPG I'm not that interested anymore.

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@thom
by smashIt on Tue 26th Jan 2010 21:28 UTC
smashIt
Member since:
2005-07-06

i'm surprised that you didn't review batman arkham asylum

definitely my game of the year 2009

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Meh
by Tuxie on Wed 27th Jan 2010 06:28 UTC
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2009-04-22

Come back when they release a PS3 version. Until then, I'll play the best game currently on the market, Uncharted 2. ;)

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RE: Meh
by suryad on Wed 27th Jan 2010 14:42 UTC in reply to "Meh"
suryad Member since:
2005-07-09

I am with you there. But ME1/2 does absolutely nothing to me. I just got so bored so fast. Dry is the word. I would rather replay the Witcher and await my copy of Dragon Age.

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RE: Meh
by hollovoid on Wed 27th Jan 2010 17:36 UTC in reply to "Meh"
hollovoid Member since:
2005-09-21

Uncharted 2 is AWESOME, it made me feel good about owning a ps3 after the first 10 mins into it.

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RE: Meh
by stabbyjones on Wed 27th Jan 2010 22:49 UTC in reply to "Meh"
stabbyjones Member since:
2008-04-15

Cry alone in your room much?

Honestly I'm surprised EA didn't make a port when they bought Bioware but the Mass Effect trilogy is exclusive to Microsoft. (360/PC)

I've heard uncharted 2 is awesome but the reason I bought an xbox 360 was because of mass effect.

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Activations, SecuRom etc
by Matzon on Wed 27th Jan 2010 08:12 UTC
Matzon
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2005-07-06

I'd buy if it it was my own - but as long as bioware/ea keeps trying to control what you buy, then no thanks.

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RE: Activations, SecuRom etc
by kragil on Wed 27th Jan 2010 10:48 UTC in reply to "Activations, SecuRom etc"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

Wrong.

No Securom or activation and you can install on as many machines as you like.

DLC is another story.

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RE[2]: Activations, SecuRom etc
by Matzon on Thu 28th Jan 2010 06:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Activations, SecuRom etc"
Matzon Member since:
2005-07-06

dang - sorry, you're right.
I was mixing it with "the other title" ;)

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Game Of The Year
by Ultimatebadass on Wed 27th Jan 2010 09:34 UTC
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2006-01-08

Yeah, of the next 3-4 weeks maybe.

GOTY gets declared by media every time something a bit above average appears and what gets called game of the year in January will be all but forgotten by December. Could we please drop it?

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RE: Game Of The Year
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 27th Jan 2010 09:46 UTC in reply to "Game Of The Year"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I meant it on a personal level. The only possible thing I can see coming this year that could be better than ME2 is Fallout: New Vegas, which is still scheduled for this summer.

We'll know more early February when the first information is released.

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RE[2]: Game Of The Year
by airwedge1 on Wed 27th Jan 2010 14:43 UTC in reply to "RE: Game Of The Year"
airwedge1 Member since:
2006-02-22

God of War 3
Final Fantasy XIII
Gran Turismo 5


These will all be in the running.

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RE[3]: Game Of The Year
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 27th Jan 2010 14:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Game Of The Year"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

God of War 3


Another one?

Final Fantasy XIII


The same boring androgynous JRPG nonsense filled with girls of questionable age. To each his own, I guess.

Gran Turismo 5


A racing game by definition cannot become a game of the year. Besides graphics, there's little creativity going on.

To each his own.

Edited 2010-01-27 14:54 UTC

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RE[4]: Game Of The Year
by Beta on Wed 27th Jan 2010 16:14 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Game Of The Year"
Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

"God of War 3

Another one?
"
You did notice the 2 after Mass Effect, right?
Hello pot, meet kettle.

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RE[5]: Game Of The Year
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 27th Jan 2010 16:31 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Game Of The Year"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Except that Mass Effect actually tells a story, and every GoW game so far has been exactly the same.

There's nothing bad about that - quite the contrary - but it does mean it can't be the best game of the year in my book.

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RE[3]: Game Of The Year
by kragil on Wed 27th Jan 2010 15:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Game Of The Year"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

Quite PS3-heavy your list.

Declaring GOTY in january is a tough call. ME2, GT5 and GOW3 are probably on the list, but hopefully a game that is not a sequel will come along and steal our hearts. (Like Portal)

Maybe a game that pushes the boundaries and builds upon everything that is good in todays games will come along and break all records .. much like Avatar.

But games that are released at the end of year often get the awards anyways .. bad for ME2.

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Really?
by jal_ on Wed 27th Jan 2010 10:19 UTC
jal_
Member since:
2006-11-02

but the quotes are true to the word.


I didn't know they speak English in Alkmaar. Or, alternatively, the quotes are true to the translated words.

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Surprisingly...
by zsejk on Wed 27th Jan 2010 15:21 UTC
zsejk
Member since:
2009-01-20

... MediaMarkt also already had it.

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"Blistering Cold?""
by rockwell on Wed 27th Jan 2010 16:28 UTC
rockwell
Member since:
2005-09-13

// just went out in the blistering cold (windchill factor -12)//

Rookie. :-)

Try living in the upper-midwestern US states for a winter.

We had -38 windchill a few weeks ago. It's been 15 straight days of below-28-farenheit temps.

(and yes, it sucks, and yes, i should move)

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RE: "Blistering Cold?""
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 27th Jan 2010 16:30 UTC in reply to ""Blistering Cold?"""
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Note that the -12 is in Celsius.

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RE[2]: "Blistering Cold?""
by Soulbender on Wed 27th Jan 2010 17:51 UTC in reply to "RE: "Blistering Cold?"""
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18



Edited 2010-01-27 17:51 UTC

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RE: "Blistering Cold?""
by hollovoid on Wed 27th Jan 2010 17:39 UTC in reply to ""Blistering Cold?"""
hollovoid Member since:
2005-09-21

I was in North Dakota a few weeks ago, I dont know how you guys handle that, I thought it was bad dealin with -15f for a couple weeks here in NY.

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RE: "Blistering Cold?""
by Soulbender on Wed 27th Jan 2010 17:54 UTC in reply to ""Blistering Cold?"""
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Rookie?
28F is rookie winter cold. Try living in Scandinavia with 14F-5F cold. And that's not wind chill.
Guess why I moved to the tropics?

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RE: "Blistering Cold?""
by boldingd on Wed 27th Jan 2010 22:27 UTC in reply to ""Blistering Cold?"""
boldingd Member since:
2009-02-19

In Atlanta, Georgia, three days below freezing was a BFD. Schools and businesses closed.

People in North Georgia still talk about the Blizzard of '93, which took out power for about a week (and had the roads mostly closed, and brought normal life to a halt). That was caused by (if memory serves, and I was 9) not 4" of snow. We are... not used to cold, down here.

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RE[2]: "Blistering Cold?""
by Novan_Leon on Thu 28th Jan 2010 14:51 UTC in reply to "RE: "Blistering Cold?"""
Novan_Leon Member since:
2005-12-07

I remember that blizzard. I was in living in Georgia at the time. That sure was a fun time for a young teenager.

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Games of 2010
by Novan_Leon on Thu 28th Jan 2010 14:49 UTC
Novan_Leon
Member since:
2005-12-07

I've never played Mass Effect but I've heard it was good. To be honest, I've never really liked BioWare's games, so I've been hesitant to try ME or ME2. Nothing against BioWare but I'm just not attracted to their style.

Games I'm looking foward to in 2010?

Final Fantasy XIII (on the fence with this one)
Super Street Fighter IV
White Knight Chronicles

Final Fantasy games can be great, but I've had issues with their character design and character development since VIII, and this one has the potential to be the worst yet. Smooth skinned, emotional and melodramatic characters don't appeal to me, and if I can't get behind the characters, I tend to struggle with the game as a whole.

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