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Support is still needed higher up in the graphics stack to make this work.

I can't find the link atm, but NVIDIA once said that all the support is there, and it's only Apple that can now bring it to Mac OS X.

I'm really trying to figure out how the heck do you have problems with xorg on a single monitor display, heck even on two (if you consider proprietary drivers)

Any kind of a "special" hardware ?

Yeah, I haven't had X crash on me since 97. Is it because I'm lucky or that I only use open source drivers?

I'm only using the nvidia proprietary ones on two pc, one of witch is my daily work one.

Any kind of a "special" hardware ?

I wouldn't consider an Intel integrated graphics chip that special.
It is also rather ironic that I specifically bought a new computer with an Intel graphics chip rather than a nVidia discrete one, just so that it would work great with Linux. I even suppressed my inner urge to play games with my computer, just for that. And turns out, now I'm on windows with a sub-par graphics chip all along.

Kinda explains my poisonous attitude though...

Xorg itself probably isn't unstable in this case, Intel's driver is

Intel certainly has a good reputation for releasing open source drivers for their chips, but some recent cards have apparently been accompanied by poorly written drivers

"Time is only spent on crying how hw manufacturers create shitty (AND/OR closed-source) drivers."

Guess why?

Xorg could create a thousand killer features and write millions of lines of perfectly bug free code that does everything anyone could ever dream of, but it still wouldn't mean shit to most end users as long as they rely on shitty, closed source drivers who want to do things their own way and don't keep up with the development pace.

Yet you put all the blame on Xorg...

Are you really that surprised that people are frustrated?

He has an intel card, so it is shitty, opensource drivers for shitty, open hardware

Don't forget the crappy open source drivers, and driver-level features that should be core X features.

X is a minefield of crappy politics, even without closed source drivers, which would be very easy to deal with (stop supporting old crap, and let nVidia and everyone else catch up, if they want).

Also, isn't it funny how a Windows+nVidia news item becomes about X and FOSS?

Edited 2010-02-10 07:00 UTC

Urg, please people read up on XOrg and what is happening.
There is a lot happening. There is crying about closed source slowing things, but there is still lots of action. Biggest of which is drivers being moved out of X into the kernel. That's what the big fuss with KMS,DRM and Gallium3D is. NVidia aren't joining in because it doesn't fit with there cross platform driver development, as it would make the Linux driver completely different than the other platforms. But this matters less and less, because Nouveau is really picking up speed now, and is increasingly becoming a viable alternative. The Nouveau drivers are keeping up with XOrg development. Once the drivers are out of X, the code base shrinks massively and it won't neeed to run as root anymore. This all means it makes easier to write X reimplimentations or alternatives, like Wayland.

Xorg is not lacking multidisplay support. I've been using it at home for years. Normally now it's all done with Xrandr bar the NVidia closed drivers, and as I said, that won't matter soon enough as they won't be needed.

Watch the Nouveau driver development. It already addresses some of your issues with closed Nvidia drivers, some of which is why there is such pressure to replace them.