Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Apr 2010 23:01 UTC
Red Hat "Linux vendor Red Hat today released the first public beta of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6, giving observers a look at what's to come in the next version of its flagship operating system platform. The new release takes advantage of a long list of new Linux kernel improvements for performance and scalability while also providing new technologies for security, management, and virtualization."
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Wow, No comments?
by nickelbackro on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 02:58 UTC
nickelbackro
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2009-04-12

This is great news. Red hat is THE corporate standard for Linux based OSes and it's awesome to see them nearing another release.

As great as the community has been in driving more bugfixes in the more visible portions of the Linux ecosystem, without corporate sponsors like Red Hat, we wouldn't have the great multipurpose full featured OS that Linux based systems have become. It takes a business like Red Hat to do the non-glamorous coding work that needs to be done to ensure a stable and viable system that corporate environments require.

For that and for sponsoring the Fedora project (running Fedora 13 Beta) I salute them.

Edited 2010-04-22 03:00 UTC

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v RE: Wow, No comments?
by Matty on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 05:36 UTC in reply to "Wow, No comments?"
RE[2]: Wow, No comments?
by shotsman on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 06:32 UTC in reply to "RE: Wow, No comments?"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

How do you know that. Please supply us with your evidence.

I do not work for RH or any of their distributors not do I own any shares in RH.
I do however use RHEL/CentOS & Fedora and at time Kbuntu.

Their stance towards things like Mono should be applauded and the featureset outlined for RHEL 6 is just great (IMHO) for their target market.

F12 is (IMHO) far more stable than *buntu 9.10. I'm expecting F13 to improve on that as well.

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v RE[2]: Wow, No comments?
by Mr.Manatane on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 07:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Wow, No comments?"
RE[2]: Wow, No comments?
by gilboa on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 07:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Wow, No comments?"
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

Sadly enough, I cannot vote you as troll.

- Gilboa

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RE: Wow, No comments?
by Mikaku on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 07:03 UTC in reply to "Wow, No comments?"
Mikaku Member since:
2007-05-03

Yeah, this is really a great news! ;)

Anyone knows on which Fedora has been finally based?

RHEL4 -> Fedora Core 3
RHEL5 -> Fedora Core 6
RHEL6 -> Fedora 11 or 12? (or even 13?)

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RE[2]: Wow, No comments?
by gilboa on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 07:54 UTC in reply to "RE: Wow, No comments?"
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

AFAIK, it was based on a modified F11.
(I first noticed EPEL branches durnig the F12 development)

- Gilboa

Edited 2010-04-22 07:55 UTC

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RE[2]: Wow, No comments?
by Rahul on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 07:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Wow, No comments?"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

Primarily Fedora 12 but several updates from Fedora 13. It will change considerably before release as well.

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RE[3]: Wow, No comments?
by TechGeek on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 12:58 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Wow, No comments?"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

I don't think it will. This is a public beta. Companies will be using it as reference platform for software development. There will be bug fixes and minor updates, but there are never big changes after a beta is released.

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RE[4]: Wow, No comments?
by Rahul on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 14:10 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Wow, No comments?"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

Never say never. Big changes are a relative thing. RHEL 6 is under a feature freeze but there are nevertheless substantial changes often made. Consider the betas of RHEL 5 as a reference.

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RE: Wow, No comments?
by Adam S on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 15:44 UTC in reply to "Wow, No comments?"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

There's nothing really sexy or exciting about a mature company releasing their scheduled mature product when they have a bleeding edge product that better captures the internet of most of this audience.

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Finally!
by TheMatt on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 13:51 UTC
TheMatt
Member since:
2005-10-10

As someone who used to use Fedora, switching to RHEL was a bit of a downgrade. As we moved past FC6 to F12 & 13, only more so. (Can anyone confirm that we finally get modern Firefox? One with positive integer after 3.? How about a new-ish gnuplot or LaTeX?)

I do have to say, though, that I am impressed that Red Hat managed to out-slow Debian. In the old days, I always used to joke about the long release cycle of Debian stable, but now it's positively bleeding edge compared to Red Hat.

Yes, yes. I do understand the need for an LTS stable version for enterprise use. I just wish they'd upgrade the usability bits more often. New Firefox, new Thunderbird, new utilities rather than hunting for EPEL versions with odd names (gnuplot42, say, so it doesn't conflict) or building yourself.

Edited 2010-04-22 13:53 UTC

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RE: Finally!
by Elv13 on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 14:18 UTC in reply to "Finally!"
Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

Updating Firefox is not a good idea. Even if 95% RHEL user use it as a server, the other 5% would experience broken intranet if it was designed for Firefox 2.

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RE[2]: Finally!
by TheMatt on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 14:19 UTC in reply to "RE: Finally!"
TheMatt Member since:
2005-10-10

Well, RHEL5.5 has Fx 3.0.19, so it's a Firefox 3 variant. I'd just rather have the *modern* Firefox 3 variant!

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RE[2]: Finally!
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 16:48 UTC in reply to "RE: Finally!"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Its not a a good idea, but not for that reason. IF any insane person designed an intranet app for firefox specifically and not just for web standards, my hat is off to them for shooting themselves in the foot with a thermonuclear warhead and surviving.

For the non criminally insane, there are a lot of dependencies in linux distros. upgrading one part may cause a chain reaction of necessary updates. So including one newer version of an app, isn't that easy. What you find more typically with redhat, is that they will take features from newer versions and back port them to older versions in such a way that it doesn't require any new dependencies.

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Taking a lifetime!
by Damnshock on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 13:58 UTC
Damnshock
Member since:
2006-09-15

I've been downloading since the moment I saw it was available and I've got just over 1Gb...

Maybe tonight I'll be able to give it a try :S

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Disappointed in kernel
by Milo_Hoffman on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 14:45 UTC
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Member since:
2005-07-06

Am I the only one that was disappointed they didn't use 2.6.33? It was released for FC12.

I REALLY REALLY wanted 2.6.33 because it added DRBD to the official kernel tree.

DRBD would add a nice(mature) feature to RHEL that not many other operating systems have.

The problem is we will be stuck with 2.6.32 for god knows how many years and now DRBD won't appear until RHEL 7.

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RE: Disappointed in kernel
by Mikaku on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 15:07 UTC in reply to "Disappointed in kernel"
Mikaku Member since:
2007-05-03

On every new major update RedHat often introduces new features to its kernel and even sometimes rebase some applications (read Backporting).

They could introduce DRDB in one of the next RHEL 6.x updates (once they think it's stable enough or it's good for their business).

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RE: Disappointed in kernel
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 16:51 UTC in reply to "Disappointed in kernel"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

A bleeding edge kernel in RHEL??

That's not likely. In fact, I'm surprised it has 2.6.32.

Keep in mind Fedora is a testing ground for things that go into RHEL. So yes, 2.6.33 is being tested in Fedora 12, that doesn't mean its met all of their requirements yet.

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RE[2]: Disappointed in kernel
by vivainio on Thu 22nd Apr 2010 20:26 UTC in reply to "RE: Disappointed in kernel"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

In fact, I'm surprised it has 2.6.32.


.32 is a "long term support" kernel, so it makes perfect sense. Lucid is also using the same version.

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