Linked by David Adams on Fri 11th Jun 2010 23:10 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Starting next week, Thom Holwerda will be beginning a seven week internship at a Netherlands-based translation firm, so he'll be cutting his OSNews efforts back, and the rest of the OSNews team is going to need to fill in. We've been talking forever about how we need to recruit new editors to freshen up the viewpoints here at OSNews, and I guess there's nothing like a crisis to force everybody to do what they should have done a long time ago. So if you think you have something to contribute to the OSNews effort, read on.
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v Freaking Hell Ya!
by SuperDaveOsbourne on Fri 11th Jun 2010 23:47 UTC
RE: Freaking Hell Ya!
by darknexus on Sat 12th Jun 2010 00:12 UTC in reply to "Freaking Hell Ya!"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I take it, of course, you are going to volunteer in Thom's place then? Naturally, you can so very obviously do it so much better judging from your intelligence in the last comment...

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RE: Freaking Hell Ya!
by Budd on Sun 13th Jun 2010 18:07 UTC in reply to "Freaking Hell Ya!"
Budd Member since:
2005-07-08

I gave you a +1 (hopefully). Is not going to change anything but yeah,feeling the same.

Edited 2010-06-13 18:08 UTC

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v RE: Freaking Hell Ya!
by Shannara on Mon 14th Jun 2010 02:07 UTC in reply to "Freaking Hell Ya!"
If anyone's interested
by darknexus on Sat 12th Jun 2010 00:17 UTC
darknexus
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2008-07-15

I can do some features. I've been meaning to do a series of features for a while now focusing on accessibility, in various aspects, of any oses which sport such things or 3rd party add-ons. This includes desktop systems and mobile oses as well. If there's an interest, I'd be happy to write features concerning such things. I'd also like to, if possible, test the upcoming V5 somehow for accessibility-related issues. I can get down in the code if I find something, have to brush up on my php and HTML 5 though as it's been a little while since I've done web dev work. Any call for these things?

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RE: If anyone's interested
by Kroc on Sat 12th Jun 2010 06:34 UTC in reply to "If anyone's interested"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Any call for these things?


Not yet, but there will be at the appropriate time. Your name vill also go on ze list.

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Writing, editing...
by lubod on Sat 12th Jun 2010 01:01 UTC
lubod
Member since:
2009-02-02

First, I'd be willing to help with writing or editing, though I don't have any story ideas at the moment.

SuperDaveOsbourne: Please chill out a little. I've found myself in disagreement with Thom's stated opinion often enough (though we do agree on some topics as well), but anyone who does half of what he does for this site pro bono deserves some respect, rather than ad hominem attacks. No one fired him, since if its volunteer 'work' they can't, it sounds more like he's stepping down temporarily, of his own free will. That whole '...door hit you on the way out' line was so reminiscent of 14 year olds with no social skills playing Doom while drinking too much caffeine. It is in the interest of everyone, both the site operators and visitors to remain civil and gives reasoned arguments, not random flaming.

darknexus: If the 'staff' cares, I hope they do let you write stuff up, you are one of the posters that exemplifies the mature attitude the site needs to avoid becoming 'the worst of slashdot' (fanboish name calling with no useful content). In other words you have my vote.

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RE: Writing, editing...
by nt_jerkface on Sat 12th Jun 2010 06:29 UTC in reply to "Writing, editing..."
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

14 year olds with no social skills playing Doom while drinking too much caffeine.


I did a lot of that when I was 14. Good times.

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RE: Writing, editing...
by vodoomoth on Sat 12th Jun 2010 22:38 UTC in reply to "Writing, editing..."
vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30


darknexus: If the 'staff' cares, I hope they do let you write stuff up, you are one of the posters that exemplifies the mature attitude the site needs to avoid becoming 'the worst of slashdot' (fanboish name calling with no useful content). In other words you have my vote.

Was about to write something similar. You have my vote too.

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RE: Writing, editing...
by Morgan on Sun 13th Jun 2010 02:57 UTC in reply to "Writing, editing..."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

darknexus: If the 'staff' cares, I hope they do let you write stuff up, you are one of the posters that exemplifies the mature attitude the site needs to avoid becoming 'the worst of slashdot' (fanboish name calling with no useful content). In other words you have my vote.


I'll second that vote, I've always found darknexus to be amiable and intelligent.

As for me, well I love to write (as anyone who has seen my longer posts can attest) but I barely have time to maintain my local weather blog and my fledgling personal blog, not to mention story writing, paying work and family life. My hat is off to Thom, Kroc, David, Eugenia and all the other contributors to this site for doing such a wonderful job in keeping us both up to date and entertained.

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RE[2]: Writing, editing...
by lubod on Sun 13th Jun 2010 11:30 UTC in reply to "RE: Writing, editing..."
lubod Member since:
2009-02-02

Morgan: your comments are rather well thought out as well. The site could do worse for contributors.

P.S. Since voodoomoth said "I second", that would make you third. Which is a good thing, so far as darknexus' chances of writing something up is concerned. Minor point of order 'nazism'.

P.P.S. Should reiterate that anyone who contributed to the site deserves a 'thank you' (at least), and the h8rs deserve 'u w4nk3r'.

Matt: I understand (and empathize with) your POV. Apple stuff is overhyped, especially in Murikqa! OTOH, That rant URL is a bit 'Aspberger syndrome' (really). 'My international mega-corp is better than your international mega-corp!' Where have I heard this before (said as a sometime fan of both companies' products)? Ooh, I know, my team will KILL your team THIS year! No offence intended, please accept this as personal commentary, not a flame. Apple makes nice product but their policies often SUCK for both the customer and developer. Nokia also makes nice stuff, but sometimes their future direction is uh, erratic? I have the N800, since the N770(?) seemed a bit prototype, and bound to be obsolete, to put it nicely. And then the 810 came out, and N900 after that, all within what, 5 years? And people accuse Apple of planned obsolescence? I understand new developments in mobile hardware and OSes/Toolkits were pushing them in new, unanticipated directions, but seriously, slow down a bit! Don't dump the last model every time you change Toolkits, please.

nt_jerkface: Again, no offence, but while I am not judging you if you played Doom at 14 after drinking too much Dew, (I can see how it was fun), it is useful in an FPS, but in a forum where people share knowledge, not so much. Moderation in all things has been a proverb since the Roman Empire was the greatest power in all of Europe (perhaps longer? Speaking as someone who was born and raised in Europe until age 11 and grew up in the US for the past 2+ decades).

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Wish I had more time
by Alex Forster on Sat 12th Jun 2010 01:31 UTC
Alex Forster
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2005-08-12

I really wish I had more time, because I always thought I'd be pretty good at picking the solid, content-rich stories out of each tech news cycle. There are some amazing developer blogs that I've always thought deserved more attention, and language design has been driving traffic like crazy lately, but it's all getting passed over on OSNews because the editorial staff doesn't do software development. The only reason I hesitate is the whole Page 1/Page 2 thing. I work; I flat out don't have the time to write several short essays each day, and I know you're really strong on keeping Page 1/Page 2.

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Comment by Stratoukos
by Stratoukos on Sat 12th Jun 2010 01:36 UTC
Stratoukos
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2009-02-11

Perhaps you should consider splitting the roles. I'm pretty sure there are people out there who would love to contribute to OSNews that are brilliant writers, but not programmers.

I, on the other hand, can't write something to be read by thousands of people, but I'd love to help developing the site (or, perhaps, an iPhone app)

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Comment by t3RRa
by t3RRa on Sat 12th Jun 2010 02:58 UTC
t3RRa
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2005-11-22

I've always wished to contribute to OSNEWS somehow since OSNEWS is the top most favourite site out of handful sites that I visit everyday, though had found no time or else, and only thing that I think I could contribute is web development part anyway (~3+ years commercial experience + more on else). Only if I could work casual in my spare time.. ;)

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Count me in!
by strestout1 on Sat 12th Jun 2010 03:10 UTC
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2010-06-08

David, I'm game! I actually have been running my own site over at Geekvine.net for the past month, and used to run TipMonkies.com a few years back, and Thom may or may not remember me from the SkyOS days...

BTW, congrats on the internship Thom!

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This will be good
by TaterSalad on Sat 12th Jun 2010 03:32 UTC
TaterSalad
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2005-07-06

I think this will be a good refresh for everyone. Good for Thom because he has an internship and good for OS news for the change of editors for a while. While such a thing does sound interesting to be a contributor and editor, I just don't have the journalistic skills for it but I do look forward to reading the new content.

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Good luck thom!
by hollovoid on Sat 12th Jun 2010 04:48 UTC
hollovoid
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2005-09-21

Best of luck on your internship, look forward to any articles you get time for, you always provide a means to active discussion.

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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Sat 12th Jun 2010 06:26 UTC
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2005-11-10

If anybody has further questions or would like to talk, add me to your MSN / GTalk via kroccamen@gmail.com. I might be busy today, but in general I’m often around.

I would say that we’re not looking for talent, we’re looking for commitment. I wouldn’t think myself that I matched those criteria, but here I am, doing the job. If you can put yourself forward, are willing to simply try and care enough about osnews to stick around then you could be the right person.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by malxau on Sun 13th Jun 2010 05:17 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
malxau Member since:
2005-12-04

I would say that we’re not looking for talent, we’re looking for commitment.


Doesn't transforming osnews into a site that produces its own content really require both? If it's not feasible to get that in one person, then perhaps multiple complimentary people can achieve the same result?

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Here as well
by lopisaur on Sat 12th Jun 2010 07:57 UTC
lopisaur
Member since:
2006-02-27

OSNews is the site that opens with my browser every morning and I'll be more than glad to help out whenever I have a few moments off work (or during work...).
Btw., anyone going to LinuxTag in Berlin today?

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RE: Here as well
by Barnabyh on Sat 12th Jun 2010 22:42 UTC in reply to "Here as well"
Barnabyh Member since:
2006-02-06

I would if I still lived there. One day we'll move back...one day.

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Question
by spiderman on Sat 12th Jun 2010 08:29 UTC
spiderman
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2008-10-23

Can we have some information about how the revenues are shared at OSNews? No big deal, I'm just curious. I suppose the revenues are not that high anyway.

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RE: Question
by David on Sat 12th Jun 2010 22:11 UTC in reply to "Question"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

Right now, advertising rates are in the toilet, but when things are better, OSNews revenue gets doled out to keep the most active contributors decked out with computing goodies, and we can usually put together a budget for travel to conferences and stuff like that.

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Great !!
by Mr.Manatane on Sat 12th Jun 2010 10:55 UTC
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Member since:
2010-03-19

Thom Holwerda will be beginning a seven week internship at a Netherlands-based translation firm, so he'll be cutting his OSNews efforts back

Hope he will stay here and Eugenia comes back.

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RE: Great !!
by PLan on Sun 13th Jun 2010 20:21 UTC in reply to "Great !!"
PLan Member since:
2006-01-10

Hope he will stay here and Eugenia comes back.


Nooooooooooo !

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RE: Great !!
by Eddyspeeder on Mon 14th Jun 2010 13:46 UTC in reply to "Great !!"
Eddyspeeder Member since:
2006-05-10

I was thinking the same thing! Would be great if Eugenia could find the time and motivation to bridge this 5-week period to keep continuity up.

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OSnews the site that boils my coffee
by Karitku on Sat 12th Jun 2010 14:04 UTC
Karitku
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2006-01-12

I couldn't start my day without OSnews. Nothing wakes me better than reading comments and articles by linux tards, Mac fags and other alternative assholes. It gives me rage to work thru day, it boils my coffee and I like it! I hope next guy is as nuts as Thom was, you nutty dutch I'm gonna miss you. I sure hope you will be back otherwise Krocs articles will overboil my coffee and Davids Guardian style borefest will leave it luke warm.

And no I didn't read whole article, instead I decided to rage like lunatic.

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cefarix Member since:
2006-03-18

You just boiled my coffee, warmed my lunch, and ordered me pizza for dinner.

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Topic Criteria?
by tessmonsta on Sat 12th Jun 2010 15:59 UTC
tessmonsta
Member since:
2009-07-16

In addition to contributors, I'm curious if OSNews should define a clearly set of topic criteria. Just what sort of posts do we want on the site? Are editorials and opinion posts allowed?

While the site does have a style guide, without a defined I can imagine many people submitting posts and quickly becoming frustrated with denials. (This is in part why I tend to post only to my site and not to OSNews.)

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i already do this
by google_ninja on Sat 12th Jun 2010 16:24 UTC
google_ninja
Member since:
2006-02-05

21 accepted submissions so far ;)

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Podcast?
by ideasman42 on Sat 12th Jun 2010 19:16 UTC
ideasman42
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2007-07-20

Will Thom still join in the podcast?, alas, just as he switches to linux he leaves osnews, hope the podcast keeps running.

Good luck in your new position Thom!

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RE: Podcast?
by Barnabyh on Sat 12th Jun 2010 22:46 UTC in reply to "Podcast?"
Barnabyh Member since:
2006-02-06

Don't forget it's only an internship and as such unpaid. Maybe he'll be getting free travel to work but who could ever live on that?
Then again the social is a lot more generous on the continent than here in the UK.

I presume, and hope, Thom will be back. How could he cope without the free gadgets he must have become accustomed to.

Edited 2010-06-12 22:47 UTC

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Comment by Brynet
by brynet on Sat 12th Jun 2010 23:04 UTC
brynet
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2010-03-02

I don't see cookies on that list, I've been mislead.

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RE: Comment by Brynet
by Morgan on Sun 13th Jun 2010 03:00 UTC in reply to "Comment by Brynet"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Haven't you played Portal? "The cake is a lie" -- words to live by.

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RE[2]: Comment by Brynet
by brynet on Sun 13th Jun 2010 04:39 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Brynet"
brynet Member since:
2010-03-02

Not unless it was recently ported to OpenBSD.

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RE[3]: Comment by Brynet
by Morgan on Sun 13th Jun 2010 13:25 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Brynet"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

That would be nice! Steam just made it to MacOS and Linux, so there's hope. ;)

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RE[4]: Comment by Brynet
by DrillSgt on Sun 13th Jun 2010 15:25 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Brynet"
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

That would be nice! Steam just made it to MacOS and Linux, so there's hope. ;)


Steam has not officially made it to Linux. It will run under Wine, but that is as good as we get for now.

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You probably don't want me.
by Matt Giacomini on Sun 13th Jun 2010 05:58 UTC
Matt Giacomini
Member since:
2005-07-06

I would love to write some entries, but I already smell the rejection.

My writing style is pretty much along the lines of this guy:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

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Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sun 13th Jun 2010 12:22 UTC
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

I've sent an email to David - haven't received a reply back so I assume that is Dave's polite well of telling me to "piss off and never email again".

Oh well, I'd probably do write a few articles regarding the future direction of IT, speculation on Microsoft products, maybe a few reviews as I trip over software and hardware I buy.

*shrugs* oh well, I've always got my blog to keep me happy.

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by jessesmith on Sun 13th Jun 2010 13:29 UTC in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
jessesmith Member since:
2010-03-11

I'm in the same situation, but I'm hoping it's more a matter of he's got a giant pile of e-mail to wade through and there's still hope. ... It is the weekend after all, Dave probably has better things to do than write rejection/acceptance letters.

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by dvhh on Mon 14th Jun 2010 03:13 UTC in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

I would personally vote for you if that count, though you've got a strong bias toward Apple (sorry I am mainly using a linux guest thru virtualbox).
But reading your comment through time, you mostly make sense and got a strong understanding of OS work ( well better than most of the fanboys I see here ). Even though commenting and contributing are two different things, I think that bringing you on the OSnews team wouldn't hurt that much.

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ParadoxUncreated
Member since:
2009-12-05

Hiya, I made a new version of this, but it's not ready yet.

http://www.paradoxuncreated.com/articles/Millennium/Millennium.html

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go back to your roots
by ari-free on Mon 14th Jun 2010 02:31 UTC
ari-free
Member since:
2007-01-22

I would hope to see more articles about alternative OS's. Windows/Mac/Linux articles are a dime a dozen these days and just lead into huge flame threads. The tech community needs to see what else is out there and this is what made OSNews worth checking out.

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RE: go back to your roots
by Kroc on Mon 14th Jun 2010 03:27 UTC in reply to "go back to your roots"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Would love to, but that news simply isn’t being submitted nor is of any interest (v0.0.3: bug fixes…). If anybody here is passionate about alternative OSes and wants to chase them and feature short and long articles about them on OSnews then please put yourself forward and contact David or begin using our submission form to send articles our way.

It really isn’t that we wouldn’t have such news, but as Thom discussed in his article about OSnews’ focus shift, AFAWK nothing interesting is happening in alt-OSes right now.

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RE[2]: go back to your roots
by Morgan on Mon 14th Jun 2010 04:33 UTC in reply to "RE: go back to your roots"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

It really isn’t that we wouldn’t have such news, but as Thom discussed in his article about OSnews’ focus shift, AFAWK nothing interesting is happening in alt-OSes right now.


As I've stated in the past here and elsewhere, there are several new alternative OSes to be studied and talked about; they just don't exist on the desktop. I really think OSNews would benefit from a dedicated mobile device and OS editor/contributor, possibly even crossing into the realm of embedded systems. A quick glance at engadget.com and hackaday.com nets several different projects that are just dying for coverage here. ;)

I know, OSNews picks up a mobile story once or twice a week, but it's becoming quite obvious that the mobile computing arena is the future of mainstream computing. I'm not just saying that because Apple says so, either. It's been a steady shift over the past ten years or so towards smaller, faster, more capable mobile devices -- and most recently towards those devices supplanting the traditional desktop and laptop.

As much as I personally dislike the iPad, I have to admit it's become a very influential player in the world of digital devices. Sure, it has a lot of room for improvement, and there will be competitors that will knock its socks off. But, those competitors wouldn't exist if the iPad never came about. Change is upon us whether we want it or not, and when you combine the "cloud" with devices designed specifically to access it, you have this amazing new paradigm for getting work done and entertaining yourself.

The way I see it, sites like Engadget and Gizmodo saw this wave coming a long time ago. No, I don't think OSNews should copy either of those sites, nor do I think they are "better" than this one. I merely suggest broadening the coverage of the mobile scene to stay in line with what is happening in the world today.

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RE[3]: go back to your roots
by Neolander on Mon 14th Jun 2010 07:48 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: go back to your roots"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Well, what you're describing (sub-netbook cloud mobile devices which can't do more than content consumption supplanting the desktop) is more or less my worst nightmare in terms of computing evolution ;) I even submitted an article about why, and it got published.

Then several people showed me in the comments why it was pretty much unlikely.

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Comment by abstraction
by abstraction on Mon 14th Jun 2010 12:12 UTC
abstraction
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2008-11-27

Thom is gone and the main news have halted. The effects are clearly visible =)

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Roles...
by mweichert on Mon 14th Jun 2010 18:57 UTC
mweichert
Member since:
2006-03-23

Hi,

I believe that I have what it takes to carry out the duties/roles as described.

For my own personal use, I use RSS feeds, aggregators, google alerts, and custom bots to seek the news that I'm after. I like to think of myself as resourceful. For other clients, I've developed somewhere between 250-300 bots to do particular research-related tasks.

In particular, I'm excited about helping out with the behind-the-scenes activities, such as working with your CMS and other technical components that make this site possible.

Please have a look at my website for detailed qualifications, www.mweichert.com.

Thanks for your consideration!

Cheers,
Mike

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The world of *BSD
by bubbayank on Wed 16th Jun 2010 03:22 UTC
bubbayank
Member since:
2005-07-15

I tend to keep up with a few mailing lists that have nice little tidbits many of the more linux-centric sites miss. Not big news, but interesting stuff for the technically-inclined.

I also could pull a few tutorials out of my posterior for some neat little FreeBSD tricks.

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