Linked by David Adams on Tue 15th Jun 2010 21:40 UTC, submitted by REM2000
Mac OS X From the apple site: "The 10.6.4 Update is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Snow Leopard. It includes Safari 5 and general operating system fixes that enhance the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac, including fixes that: resolve an issue that causes the keyboard or trackpad to become unresponsive, resolve an issue that may prevent some Adobe Creative Suite 3 applications from opening, address issues copying, renaming, or deleting files on SMB file servers, improve reliability of VPN connections, resolve a playback issue in DVD Player when using Good Quality deinterlacing, resolve an issue editing photos with iPhoto or Aperture in full screen view, improve compatibility with some braille display."
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Ummm
by Cass on Wed 16th Jun 2010 00:37 UTC
Cass
Member since:
2006-03-17

>>resolve an issue that causes the keyboard or trackpad to become unresponsive

If this is resolved i am very very happy, only complaint i have with SL .. This damn issue made me think i had a HW issue... Given OSX responded when i plugged a USB KB and mouse in .. It will be a few weeks until i can sleep easy as this problem was very random to confirm its resolved .. Saying that it was a smooth upgrade .. No issues in sight so far ..

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RE: Ummm
by bousozoku on Wed 16th Jun 2010 01:34 UTC in reply to "Ummm"
bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23

>>resolve an issue that causes the keyboard or trackpad to become unresponsive

If this is resolved i am very very happy, only complaint i have with SL .. This damn issue made me think i had a HW issue... Given OSX responded when i plugged a USB KB and mouse in .. It will be a few weeks until i can sleep easy as this problem was very random to confirm its resolved .. Saying that it was a smooth upgrade .. No issues in sight so far ..


I was wondering about that. I was missing my "5" key last night suddenly and I re-booted and it returned.

Other things seem better about the same at the moment, but it gave me a scare at first when it didn't properly detect my phone for tethering.

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Still no SSD TRIM
by Arnoud on Wed 16th Jun 2010 00:52 UTC
Arnoud
Member since:
2010-06-16

Still no implementation for SSD TRIM commands.. Shouldn't be too difficult. Windows 7 has had it from the start.

My 2006 iMac now shows the following though in system profiler for my Intel SSD (which supports TRIM):

TRIM Support: No

I can't remember seeing this before installing 10.6.4 so let's hope that's an indication of progress.

Edit: It also shows the following now:

Medium Type: Solid State

I am pretty sure this is new also. So it certainly appears there is some work being done for SSDs.

Edited 2010-06-16 01:00 UTC

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RE: Still no SSD TRIM
by Callahad on Fri 18th Jun 2010 00:41 UTC in reply to "Still no SSD TRIM"
Callahad Member since:
2006-12-30

Just wanted to confirm that the "Medium Type" field is indeed new in 10.6.4, as per your suspicion. Traditions HDDs are listed as having a "Rotational" medium type.

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Safari5 and Chrome are even faster
by usr0 on Wed 16th Jun 2010 02:54 UTC
usr0
Member since:
2006-10-27

According to the Sunspider JavaScript Benchmark: http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider-driver.html


Mac OS X 10.6.3: Safari5 ~450ms vs Chrome ~500ms
Mac OS X 10.6.4: Safari5 ~360ms vs Chrome ~450ms

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tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

According to the Sunspider JavaScript Benchmark: http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider-driver.html


Mac OS X 10.6.3: Safari5 ~450ms vs Chrome ~500ms
Mac OS X 10.6.4: Safari5 ~360ms vs Chrome ~450ms


On my Debian Sid Pentium D 940 w/ 4GB Ram

EPIPHANY 2.30.2

============================================
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
--------------------------------------------
Total: 617.4ms +/- 0.3%
--------------------------------------------

3d: 89.2ms +/- 0.6%
cube: 21.6ms +/- 3.2%
morph: 45.8ms +/- 2.3%
raytrace: 21.8ms +/- 2.6%

access: 55.6ms +/- 3.7%
binary-trees: 11.8ms +/- 8.8%
fannkuch: 20.4ms +/- 3.3%
nbody: 15.0ms +/- 5.9%
nsieve: 8.4ms +/- 8.1%

bitops: 26.6ms +/- 4.2%
3bit-bits-in-byte: 3.2ms +/- 17.4%
bits-in-byte: 10.0ms +/- 0.0%
bitwise-and: 5.2ms +/- 10.7%
nsieve-bits: 8.2ms +/- 6.8%

controlflow: 4.0ms +/- 0.0%
recursive: 4.0ms +/- 0.0%

crypto: 35.2ms +/- 3.9%
aes: 20.6ms +/- 3.3%
md5: 8.0ms +/- 0.0%
sha1: 6.6ms +/- 10.3%

date: 82.8ms +/- 1.3%
format-tofte: 42.6ms +/- 2.6%
format-xparb: 40.2ms +/- 1.4%

math: 61.6ms +/- 2.3%
cordic: 15.4ms +/- 4.4%
partial-sums: 34.8ms +/- 3.0%
spectral-norm: 11.4ms +/- 6.0%

regexp: 34.8ms +/- 1.6%
dna: 34.8ms +/- 1.6%

string: 227.6ms +/- 0.5%
base64: 26.0ms +/- 3.4%
fasta: 32.0ms +/- 2.7%
tagcloud: 42.2ms +/- 2.5%
unpack-code: 85.8ms +/- 1.9%
validate-input: 41.6ms +/- 1.6%


ICEWEASEL 3.6.4~build2-1

============================================
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
--------------------------------------------
Total: 1587.8ms +/- 1.8%
--------------------------------------------

3d: 223.8ms +/- 1.2%
cube: 77.0ms +/- 3.6%
morph: 47.4ms +/- 1.4%
raytrace: 99.4ms +/- 0.7%

access: 191.8ms +/- 1.3%
binary-trees: 61.6ms +/- 1.8%
fannkuch: 81.4ms +/- 2.3%
nbody: 32.2ms +/- 1.7%
nsieve: 16.6ms +/- 15.5%

bitops: 44.8ms +/- 5.0%
3bit-bits-in-byte: 1.6ms +/- 42.6%
bits-in-byte: 13.8ms +/- 4.0%
bitwise-and: 2.6ms +/- 26.2%
nsieve-bits: 26.8ms +/- 2.1%

controlflow: 59.4ms +/- 1.9%
recursive: 59.4ms +/- 1.9%

crypto: 80.8ms +/- 5.1%
aes: 47.0ms +/- 9.9%
md5: 21.6ms +/- 3.2%
sha1: 12.2ms +/- 13.3%

date: 260.2ms +/- 1.5%
format-tofte: 163.4ms +/- 2.4%
format-xparb: 96.8ms +/- 1.1%

math: 62.4ms +/- 1.1%
cordic: 27.8ms +/- 2.0%
partial-sums: 25.0ms +/- 0.0%
spectral-norm: 9.6ms +/- 7.1%

regexp: 93.0ms +/- 6.2%
dna: 93.0ms +/- 6.2%

string: 571.6ms +/- 5.0%
base64: 12.2ms +/- 4.6%
fasta: 99.2ms +/- 1.9%
tagcloud: 155.4ms +/- 1.9%
unpack-code: 250.4ms +/- 9.6%
validate-input: 54.4ms +/- 3.8%

I bothered to see how Safari 5 on a Powerbook G4 15" [Powerbook 5/6] and the total was 5168.4ms +/- 0.6%

It's apparent there is not much work on PowerPC optimizations.

I'd like to see what the results are for a PowerMac G5 tower.

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chmeee Member since:
2006-01-10

G5 is equally abysmal to G4. This is most likely due to the fact that the JavaScript engine is optimized specifically for ARM and x86/x86-64 for JIT, and PowerPC is forced to use the interpreter instead.

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Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Wed 16th Jun 2010 04:49 UTC
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

I've upgraded both computers (iMac and MacBook Pro) and everything seems to be going very well. It appears that Apple has updated their Video Decoder Framework from 1.0 to 1.1 so I am wondering whether support has been extended beyond what it was initially supported in the first release.

Just slightly unrelated to the subject, there is a rumour that WWDC is going to be split so that there is an i-devices one once a year and a Mac OS X desktop orientated one once a year. It will be interesting to see how the whole thing pans out in the end because this year was kind of depressing at the WWDC with all the i-device wankers out there jerking off about iOS 4 and the iPhone.

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by tyrione on Wed 16th Jun 2010 04:52 UTC in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

I've upgraded both computers (iMac and MacBook Pro) and everything seems to be going very well. It appears that Apple has updated their Video Decoder Framework from 1.0 to 1.1 so I am wondering whether support has been extended beyond what it was initially supported in the first release.

Just slightly unrelated to the subject, there is a rumour that WWDC is going to be split so that there is an i-devices one once a year and a Mac OS X desktop orientated one once a year. It will be interesting to see how the whole thing pans out in the end because this year was kind of depressing at the WWDC with all the i-device wankers out there jerking off about iOS 4 and the iPhone.


Download WebKit Nightly and check out the new and improved html5test.com test.

Compare Safari to it.

The test is now out of 300.

Safari 5: 208
WebKit Nightly: 230

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Wed 16th Jun 2010 05:10 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Download WebKit Nightly and check out the new and improved html5test.com test.

Compare Safari to it.

The test is now out of 300.

Safari 5: 208
WebKit Nightly: 230


That sounds about right because Safari 5 was branched around 3-4 weeks ago and tagged as 533 which backed out of a lot of the experimental features that were added in the usual course of what was merged into the trunk. I'd say that by the time Safari 6 arrives with Webkit2 used we'll see that number jump to 300 with all the goodness that comes with process isolation.

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Rythm
by vodoomoth on Thu 17th Jun 2010 15:08 UTC
vodoomoth
Member since:
2010-03-30

I am a little surprised by the rythm of the updates on 10.6 as this is the fourth update in only 10 months. I remember that I pre-ordered Snow Leopard before the it the general sales date in late August (26 or 28) 2009. And 10.6.1 was there just days after (just checked, September 10).

Is this fast pace usual for Mac OS X updates?

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RE: Rythm
by macUser on Fri 18th Jun 2010 04:18 UTC in reply to "Rythm"
macUser Member since:
2006-12-15

I am a little surprised by the rythm of the updates on 10.6 as this is the fourth update in only 10 months. I remember that I pre-ordered Snow Leopard before the it the general sales date in late August (26 or 28) 2009. And 10.6.1 was there just days after (just checked, September 10).

Is this fast pace usual for Mac OS X updates?

The release cycle seems pretty standard to me. It will slow down the longer the OS is out before 10.7 is released.

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