Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Oct 2010 20:22 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones "Mozilla has pushed back the planned release of Firefox to sometime in 'early 2011'. Previously, the open source outfit had said its latest desktop browser would be officially released next month."
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Good.
by orestes on Wed 27th Oct 2010 20:41 UTC
orestes
Member since:
2005-07-06

Better to delay the release to get things done right than release on time and have to deal with avoidable rough edges and bugs

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RE: Good.
by Jason Bourne on Thu 28th Oct 2010 20:38 UTC in reply to "Good."
Jason Bourne Member since:
2007-06-02

Since when a release date is a guarantee of stability? As I have learned with Firefox, the final release may not be stable at all.

For one thing I tell you: Chrome ate Firefox lunch.

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RE: Good.
by libray on Thu 28th Oct 2010 20:40 UTC in reply to "Good."
libray Member since:
2005-08-27

Opera should learn as much. Look at every Opera for Linux release after 10.10 and you have to wonder where the quality went. I still use 10.10 since no one can agree what is the best quality snapshot build, each one having annoying bugs.

I've personally been using Firefox more and more.

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Comment by motang
by motang on Wed 27th Oct 2010 20:52 UTC
motang
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2008-03-27

Damn, oh well, better to have a solid release then a buggy one.

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Comment by mtzmtulivu
by mtzmtulivu on Wed 27th Oct 2010 21:59 UTC
mtzmtulivu
Member since:
2006-11-14

Anybody surprised? when was the last time firefox came out on time? I do not understand why they always seem to miss their own schedules and why nobody seem to be giving them a hard time about it.

This is getting embarrassing now and whoever is in charge of releases should step aside and let someone else handle releases.

Reply Score: 1

RE: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by orestes on Wed 27th Oct 2010 23:26 UTC in reply to "Comment by mtzmtulivu"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

Could have something to do with the fact that the absolute worst thing to come from a delay for QC reasons on Firefox is that Distros won't be shipping it in whatever their current version will be at the time. Hardly the end of the world. For most people it's not worth getting lathered up over

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RE: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by Elv13 on Thu 28th Oct 2010 00:54 UTC in reply to "Comment by mtzmtulivu"
Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

Because they tag bugs release blocker, or RC blocked in the current case so the fixes have time to be tested before being fixed. It's a good thing. It may be slower to develop, but it is stronger. 3.5 was quite buggy, and not that late. So it is just better to wait until it's ready.

Reply Score: 3

RE[2]: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by Fergy on Thu 28th Oct 2010 20:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by mtzmtulivu"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

3.5 was quite buggy

Do you have examples because that wasn't my experience. I always run the latest nightlies and apart from 5 days(5 builds) per year I can do my daily browsing without any problems. Firefox 4 prebeta8 is much more fun to run than 3.6 ;)

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RE[3]: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by Elv13 on Fri 29th Oct 2010 00:42 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by mtzmtulivu"
Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

It was crashing a lot for me, due to flash and java, mostly. but crashing anyway.

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RE: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by _QJ_ on Thu 28th Oct 2010 08:21 UTC in reply to "Comment by mtzmtulivu"
_QJ_ Member since:
2009-03-12

Calm down and take holidays.
This is not critical software, you don't pay for it and previous releases work correctly.

Why be so critical of Mozilla's releases process ?
Does your life/business depend of it ?

Reply Score: 3

RE[2]: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by kvarbanov on Fri 29th Oct 2010 08:02 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by mtzmtulivu"
kvarbanov Member since:
2008-06-16

You shouldn't feed the troll. Personally I don't mind waiting for some stable release, plus my favorite addons will be supporting it. http://arewefastyet.com/ yields some promising figures as well.

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RE: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by Beta on Thu 28th Oct 2010 08:34 UTC in reply to "Comment by mtzmtulivu"
Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

Anybody surprised? when was the last time firefox came out on time? I do not understand why they always seem to miss their own schedules and why nobody seem to be giving them a hard time about it.

The only software I can name that gets regularly released on time is Ubuntu… but if you looked at first week bugs on launchpad, you’d see its possibly not a good thing.

Reply Score: 7

RE[2]: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by Sodki on Thu 28th Oct 2010 08:46 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by mtzmtulivu"
Sodki Member since:
2005-11-10

Linux? GNOME? The recent releases of Xorg? And these are only high profile projects.

Reply Score: 3

Not suprised, and in a sence relieved
by Toad on Thu 28th Oct 2010 07:07 UTC
Toad
Member since:
2005-11-27

Better they are late and stable than early and buggy/incomplete. For me its important that 4.0 has good support for html5/CSS 3/SVG, we are planning to use these technologies in our next version, planned for release January 2012 requiring at least IE9+, firefox 4+,chrome 7+

Reply Score: 1

tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

Better they are late and stable than early and buggy/incomplete. For me its important that 4.0 has good support for html5/CSS 3/SVG, we are planning to use these technologies in our next version, planned for release January 2012 requiring at least IE9+, firefox 4+,chrome 7+



Planning? Just use Chrome and any other current WebKit browser, now.

Test with Safari WebKit on Macs and Chrome/Epiphany on Linux; and Chrome on Windows. The HTML5 Algorithm is complete on those.

Reply Score: 2