Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Dec 2010 19:56 UTC
Amiga & AROS A few moments ago, a woman appeared at my doorstep with a package for me. Since it was about 19:30, I was a little perplexed - this isn't a very usual time to be delivering packages. Also, this was a woman who I've seen walking around town before - she's a local. She handed over the package, and when I saw the note on top, I was even more intrigued: "From Trevor Dickinson, A-EON Technology".
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freakin' awesome!
by eliyahu on Mon 20th Dec 2010 20:09 UTC
eliyahu
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2010-04-30

thom,

it's a shame you couldn't make it to amiwest this year out in california, but this just goes to show what a nice guy trevor is.

we looking forward to the video. ;-)

-- eliyahu

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RE: freakin' awesome!
by Neolander on Mon 20th Dec 2010 20:12 UTC in reply to "freakin' awesome!"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Indeed, a bet is a bet... Are you a man of honor ? ;)

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RE[2]: freakin' awesome!
by mcking on Mon 20th Dec 2010 20:37 UTC in reply to "RE: freakin' awesome!"
mcking Member since:
2010-06-03

If I was in that position, I'd go ahead eat my socks, too. But only if they were red velvet with cream cheese icing.

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RE[3]: freakin' awesome!
by Ensue85A on Tue 21st Dec 2010 02:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: freakin' awesome!"
Ensue85A Member since:
2009-07-10

Ha! Maybe it should be "each my breaches" (shorts)

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Haha
by Darkness on Mon 20th Dec 2010 20:09 UTC
Darkness
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2005-08-27

Nice surprise ;)

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Enjoy!
by Tuishimi on Mon 20th Dec 2010 20:20 UTC
Tuishimi
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2005-07-06

You should take pictures of yourself shoveling a large piece of sock-decorated cake into your mouth. ;)

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Comment by zizban
by zizban on Mon 20th Dec 2010 20:21 UTC
zizban
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2005-07-06

A very delicious news scoop indeed!

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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Mon 20th Dec 2010 20:45 UTC
Kroc
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2005-11-10

Podcast episode 38 is called "Eat My Socks" and is about the Amiga X1000 http://www.osnews.com/story/23417/Episode_38_Eat_My_Socks

I’m totally stunned by the amount of thought that went into this. For rubbing something in your face, you can’t argue they didn’t pull the boat out on this. Kudos to AEON and the Amiga community!

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That is some funny
by AndrewZ on Mon 20th Dec 2010 21:39 UTC
AndrewZ
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2005-11-15

When will it ship???

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Nice cake
by 123soleil on Mon 20th Dec 2010 22:31 UTC
123soleil
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2009-11-15

Maybe Amiga should drop the computer market and enter the cake business... that cake sure looks nice and i'm definitely seeing more people wanting a cake like that than an actual amiga ;-)

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If only they...
by biffuz on Mon 20th Dec 2010 22:49 UTC
biffuz
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2006-03-27

If only their sense of business is half as good as their sense of humor, they would effectively resurrect the Amiga as a major platform.
Unfortunately, I don't see it happening. If they will, I'll eat my Ferrari (any reference to http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Hell_on_Earth_2006 is unintentional).

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Comment by neticspace
by neticspace on Mon 20th Dec 2010 23:35 UTC
neticspace
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2009-06-09

The cake is a lie?

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RE: Comment by neticspace
by jack_perry on Tue 21st Dec 2010 00:04 UTC in reply to "Comment by neticspace"
jack_perry Member since:
2005-07-06

The cake is a lie?


Why, yes, the next iteration of AmigaOS will be named GLaDOS.

I've experiments to be run
There is research to be done
On the people who are
Still alive.
And believe me I am still alive...

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grats on your cake
by ronaldst on Tue 21st Dec 2010 00:59 UTC
ronaldst
Member since:
2005-06-29

Still less than 2 weeks until to go until the end of year.

I look forward to read reviews about the 1st SMP enabled AmigaOS on the market.

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How is this possble?
by shaunehunter on Tue 21st Dec 2010 03:32 UTC
shaunehunter
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2007-02-12

I really want to know.

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Classic!
by Morgan on Tue 21st Dec 2010 04:21 UTC
Morgan
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2005-06-29

THIS is why I feel OSNews is a great place to read about and discuss technology news! There's always a pleasant surprise around the corner.

Some of us here in the tech community are getting into augmented reality, i.e. supplanting the real world with a technological overlay. This event is a great example of the opposite: Bringing real, physical humor into the world of processors and operating systems.

I hope you and your family enjoy the hell out of your socks over Christmas, Thom, and have a merry one!

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Well played
by AaronD on Tue 21st Dec 2010 05:48 UTC
AaronD
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2009-08-19

It's nice to see in an era when the tech industry is run by absolute jerks, there is still someone with a sense of humor.

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Comment by Hondo
by Hondo on Tue 21st Dec 2010 06:36 UTC
Hondo
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2010-01-02

The Amiga Community is about this.....creativity, humour, and fun cakes!

This incident surely needs to be reflected in future code of AOS...perhaps a cookie ;-)

Edited 2010-12-21 06:38 UTC

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axilmar
Member since:
2006-03-20

On paper, it seems like a very good CPU. Does anyone know what the consequences will be for the Amiga OS? does this CPU offer greater functionality and performance than Intel CPUs? what is the advantage of this CPU?

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-ujb- Member since:
2005-10-21

On paper, it seems like a very good CPU. Does anyone know what the consequences will be for the Amiga OS? does this CPU offer greater functionality and performance than Intel CPUs? what is the advantage of this CPU?


It was a great cpu in its time (a few yeasr it would have attraced me stropngly) and today is still a nice one, ableit waaay to expensive and not really up to date.
The reason for OS4 to chose PA6T is plain and simply that it is a ppc and thus offers a big endian data type. And OS 4 is ppc/big endian only. A switch to x86/little endian for that OS is far from trivial if you want to keep backwards compability.
Diffrent to most other OSes OS4 shares structs between the OS and apps, if these dont match the same endianess you are in deep trouble. The same is true for MorphOS.
If the PA6T or any othe rppc is only a particuar choice, but generally the PA6T is a nice cpu, albeit not developed any longer and not my first choice (which Freescale 86xx or some QorIQ chip).

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billt Member since:
2006-01-04

IMHO PA6T is supoerior to Freescale's 86xx choices. PA6T is a G5 class 64bit core, 86xx is a G4 class 32bit core. QorIQ for the moment I think also is less desirable than PA6T, though they do finally have 64bit and seem to plan a return of Altivec, so I do very much look forward to news there for something I hope will be comparable to PA6T and have a future which PA6T does not.

PA6T has a good number of SERDES for PCI-Express and other things, with more configuration options than other PPCs, and until QorIQ adds a couple more things I think PA6T is still king of PPC, and however they managed to get some chips I think it's a fantastic choice when restricted to PowerPC.

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TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

I'm no expert on the way these OSen work, so bear with me.

Would it be easier to port to say, Ultra/OpenSparc?
No royalties involved, you could run it on an FPGA board for fun...
*shrug*
It's big-endian...

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axilmar Member since:
2006-03-20

Diffrent to most other OSes OS4 shares structs between the OS and apps, if these dont match the same endianess you are in deep trouble. The same is true for MorphOS.


Don't they have the appropriate preprocessor definitions, macros and functions that would allow them to solve the endianess issue?

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Carewolf Member since:
2005-09-08

I believe x86 now has extensions to load and store big-endian. It could easily be made a compiler option to simply switch the endianness. Even without the a simple runtime option, the endian could still be configured in the compilers OS description file.

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v Good distraction!
by jsutton on Tue 21st Dec 2010 13:42 UTC
RE: Good distraction!
by Junius on Tue 21st Dec 2010 15:38 UTC in reply to "Good distraction!"
Junius Member since:
2009-10-25

What a good idea to distract everyone from the fact that the X1000 simply isn't coming along so well.


Perhaps, but for once I'm going to hold back my cynicism.

The way I see it is the X1000 was always pretty much doomed as a commercial venture, there is a chance it will succeed and I hope Trevor can turn a profit and maybe even go on to develop an X500 or something (X1200 would be interesting.)

Out of all the 'icons' of the community that I've seen come and go, Trevor seems like a stand up guy, perhaps because that's all he's trying to be. He's not deluding himself in what he thinks he can achieve (unlike dear billy boy) he's just trying to keep a platform he loves alive like every other Amigan, some keep it alive by hacking existing hardware, writing new 68K software and just reliving the glory days, others like Trevor and the AROS and MorphOS teams look to the future and that's good too. Best of all though... he's being honest and upfront with the community. (again, gotta miss bill)

Personally I'm happy with Protracker and AmiBlitz on my A1200, and I'm looking forward to working on something for AROS when I've done enough research and got the thing to run properly on my laptop; but that doesn't mean I'm not happy that Trevor is taking the Amiga to new places and inviting us along for the ride. I wish him, my favourite computer and all the Amigans out there a merry drinkmas and the best of luck for the new year. Maybe we can all get along in 2011?

Off Topic:
Anyone remember Vroom? Just rediscovered this little racing gem last night. It's even made me put down F1 for the ps3 I got last week.

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RE[2]: Good distraction!
by TheGZeus on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 15:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Good distraction!"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Yeah!

I'm not going to be using these OSen, but I'm glad they and new hw exist.

At the least, because maybe the next Hirasawa Susumu album will be more lush and intense, as he uses Amigas to compose/sequence his music. More power in the hw would allow him to not get bogged down with any speed limits and just compose.

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This is hilarious.
by bryanv on Tue 21st Dec 2010 14:50 UTC
bryanv
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2005-08-26

Now ship, please, ship!

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Nice
by telns on Tue 21st Dec 2010 19:44 UTC
telns
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2009-06-18

Thumbs up for both A-EON and Nina. Well done.

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WOW
by AmiKit on Wed 22nd Dec 2010 16:24 UTC
AmiKit
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2006-09-10

Thumbs up!

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Comment by zizban
by zizban on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 00:23 UTC
zizban
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2005-07-06

Is A-EON going to have enough processors? It's not like they're made any more.

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RE: Comment by zizban
by TheGZeus on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 00:46 UTC in reply to "Comment by zizban"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

I'm not so sure the Amiga community is _growing_...

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RE[2]: Comment by zizban
by Hondo on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 07:26 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by zizban"
Hondo Member since:
2010-01-02

I would say it grows fine! The Amiga Community is strong and stubborn like hell...they refused to die a long time ago!

The AmigaOne X1000 and AmigaOS is a killer combination, and shows once again that THE AMIGA IS ALIVE AND KICKING!!

And don't forget the SAM machines covers the entry level hardware. So all in all we have many different hardware options, and a high level machine in the horizon, and a GREAT operating system AmigaOS 4.1

The Amiga situation is better than ever!


long live the Amiga!

Edited 2010-12-23 07:28 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by zizban
by viton on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 13:43 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zizban"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

>> So all in all we have many different hardware options
And this is a problem.
Amiga today (and in last 15 years) is a bunch of small groups of enthusiasts who doesn't care about the platform, but only targeted to theirs personal goals.
Instead of single future-proof hardware platform and single OS platform we have non-compatible, not future proof HW + 4 Amiga-flavour OSes.

The problem of X1000 is what it is designed as 80s platform. Put a custom XMOS chip on mobo and hope someone will find it useful. Feels so oldskool

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RE[4]: Comment by zizban
by zizban on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 14:36 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by zizban"
zizban Member since:
2005-07-06

When you cater to a community like Amiga users, putting geektastic custom chips on the mobo makes perfect sense because these are the very people who would get use out of it.

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RE[5]: Comment by zizban
by viton on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 15:03 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by zizban"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

I don't see how a few programmers who would buy X1000 hardware can make something useful with this technology for these who have SAM, for example, without said chip.

Make sure you follow the context of Hondo's post: "we have many different hardware options" => "The Amiga situation is better than ever!"

Edited 2010-12-23 15:08 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by zizban
by TheGZeus on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 15:09 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by zizban"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Think about the third-party software situation for their OS(en).
Do you really think they're not writing their own software?

Someone will hack something cool out of that chip, and hell, you can probably already do something with it on Linux, which will run on the box as well.

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RE[4]: Comment by zizban
by TheGZeus on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 15:07 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by zizban"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Actually, that's exactly what I like about it.

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RE[3]: Comment by zizban
by TheGZeus on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 15:06 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zizban"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

I think you missed the point...

I'm saying that if they got the remaining stock, possibly even a single run, that it's probably enough to meet demand.

If they made too many, it would actually hurt the future of the company!

That said, _I_ want one, but not to run Amiga OS, but there's a whole story behind that...

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Great!
by douglasm on Sat 25th Dec 2010 22:14 UTC
douglasm
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2009-03-23

Great platfrom. Great community. Great news. The best news in this (2010) year. I'll definitely buy this machine. The greatest desktop computer in these days. Cool, fine, great. Can't find more appropriate word to say PERFECT.
The only thing I doubt: can these machine makers make enough machines? Say, 1000 per day. I'm sure, market will require at least 1000 machines per day.
Great, benevolent, tremendous.

Edited 2010-12-25 22:24 UTC

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