Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th May 2011 17:55 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones Hooray for Mozilla. That about sums this story up. Remember all those domain names ICE keeps seizing? There are countless ways to get around these silly seizures,like using your operating system's hosts file. To make this a less cumbersome process, several Firefox extensions dot he work for you. Well, since copyright infringement is naturally a threat to the security of the United States, the Department of Homeland Security contacted Mozilla, asking them to take down one of these extensions. Mozilla declined.
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Mozilla ftw Indeed!
by Brunis on Fri 6th May 2011 18:05 UTC
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Mozilla scores another important win for the open web!

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Excellent News
by Sauron on Fri 6th May 2011 18:05 UTC
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Go Mozilla. You tell em!

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Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Fri 6th May 2011 21:04 UTC
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That's another reason I use Firefox and not Chrome. I respect Mozilla for their stance on open web and freedom.

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Court Order
by darknexus on Sat 7th May 2011 02:08 UTC
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NOt to be a spoilsport, and I'm just as happy with Mozilla's stance for an open web as others are, but how long do you suppose it would take DHS to get the required court order in this country when you consider that due process has become a colossal joke?

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RE: Court Order
by Neolander on Sat 7th May 2011 07:08 UTC in reply to "Court Order"
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Not sure, but it's already a democracy win that they need to take the time.

IIRC, those new domain seizures are applied before a court ruling has been won against the domain owner, which is a dangerous slap in the face of the "innocent unless proven guilty" principle, that is itself a core principle of democracy.

Edited 2011-05-07 07:09 UTC

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RE[2]: Court Order
by jptros on Sat 7th May 2011 12:21 UTC in reply to "RE: Court Order"
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Agreed. What's really troubling and irritating is that the DHS is even concerning themselves with this issue to begin with. What a complete waste of US tax dollars, in my opinion. Our ship is already taking on nearly more water than we can handle all the while these guys are pissing away our resources.

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by Lorin on Sun 8th May 2011 03:24 UTC
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I see the Gestapo is at it again, foolish considering they are an illegal organization in violation of our Constitution.

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RE: Gestapo
by kop316 on Mon 9th May 2011 02:19 UTC in reply to "Gestapo"
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From what I read, DHS requested Mozilla to take it down. It was not a cease and desist letter, and DHS did not seem to threaten any legal action if they did not comply.

There is a significant difference between that and the Gestapo.

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Comment by kvarbanov
by kvarbanov on Mon 9th May 2011 07:36 UTC
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Having been dealing with US authorities for a couple of years, I can certainly tell that such requests are being made all the time. It's up to you on how do you treat them. "If Google, Apple, or Microsoft had received such a request." ? They would have immediately honor it, or at least that's what the conventional wisdom says.
There's a difference between subpoena, a request, court order, etc, etc. I, as an ex security officer, have had received at least 20 requests from different law firms, none of which had solid ground for execution, so they were simply dismissed. Mozilla FTW.
Why is US always scared ? Osama is dead, right ? ;)

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RE: Comment by kvarbanov
by BiPolar on Mon 9th May 2011 14:33 UTC in reply to "Comment by kvarbanov"
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Why is US always scared ?

Utter disregard for other countries sovereignty comes to mind.

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But why DHS
by vitae on Tue 10th May 2011 05:21 UTC
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I can fully understand the F.B.I. going after pirates, but why the DHS? I would love for somebody, anybody to explain why this agency is essentially guaranteeing that the nation is so secure from terrorists that they have extra time on their hands. I'd also love to see somebody actually challenge it in court. I mean, do we not have separate agencies so no one becomes all-powerful?

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RE: But why DHS
by jptros on Tue 10th May 2011 11:14 UTC in reply to "But why DHS"
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It's because we've got all of these politicians that create agencies like DHS on the fly that never go away and continue to be a drain on our frail economy long after they've served their intended purpose. Our congress and senators keep taking special interest money from all of these lobbying groups and padding a few pockets here and there (like over at DHS in this example) to get the special interest groups (that would be the entertainment industry in this example) bidding done. All the while we keep giving them a percentage of our paychecks so they can keep paying the salaries of these employees of these agencies who also get government benefits that tax payers also have to pay for.

At the end of all this, they get up in front of the cameras, show up on c-span, cnn, fox news and whatever else and put on a show pretending like everything is peachy and they're working hard to get our country back on track mean while some jack-a** at DHS is getting paid (and probably getting retirement as well as health insurance) to try and enforce copyright on behalf of the entertainment industry.

Yes, this was a rant.

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