Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 8th Jun 2011 21:32 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "In an attempt to woo its Android developer base, Samsung recently shipped a number of its smartphones to members of a highly popular phone modification group. On Monday, four members of the CyanogenMod software team received Galaxy S II smartphones in the mail, direct from the company at no charge." Step by step, hardware makers are getting the message.
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v Message?
by ourcomputerbloke on Wed 8th Jun 2011 23:11 UTC
RE: Message?
by rinzai on Thu 9th Jun 2011 00:27 UTC in reply to "Message?"
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"Keep the brains on the platform" rather than "keep the brains in court".

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RE: Message?
by Luminair on Thu 9th Jun 2011 02:11 UTC in reply to "Message?"
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the message is work with hackers, not against them.

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v RE[2]: Message?
by ourcomputerbloke on Thu 9th Jun 2011 11:48 UTC in reply to "RE: Message?"
RE[3]: Message?
by Laurence on Thu 9th Jun 2011 12:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Message?"
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That so many people believe these yet my original view got voted down is a very scary prospect for the future of our world IMHO. These hackers are every bit the bully that the likes of Microsoft and Apple are, as are Google, but if I'm reading this correctly it's ok to be a bully, in fact it's something that should be rewarded, as long as you're on the popular side?

How are these hackers bullies?
Who are they bullying?

They legally buy their hardware and hack that. They don't harm anyone. They just post instructions online on how other consumers can install open source software on their legally bought hardware as well.

The whole thing is completely legal and completely harmless. So much so that the absolute worst case scenario is a hacker bricks his own phone so end up buying a new one - which in turn is more money for the phone manufacturers. However that shouldn't ever happen.

Some people seem to have this delusion that all hackers are evil - but the reality is a hacker is simply just someone who likes to get their hands dirty with system internals. So clearly these guys do not deserve distrust just because of a populous label

However if you must prejudge anyone for their social pigeon-hole, then I suggest you reserve your anger for black-hat crackers and script-kiddies instead ;)

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RE[3]: Message?
by Alfman on Fri 10th Jun 2011 04:04 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Message?"
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What is wrong with supporting the hacking/modding community?

Can you explain your dislike for them?

I've hacked/moded many of the devices I own and I don't really see the problem.

As for the "dangers" of giving away free stuff in return for positive reviews, it's possible but hardly unique to them. Technology reporters get free stuff all the time.

It's totally plausible that they simply want to encourage homebrew development.

Except for the gatekeepers at a walled garden, having a vibrant homebrew community is a win for everybody.

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RE[2]: Message?
by Soulbender on Thu 9th Jun 2011 16:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Message?"
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The OP has a point though:

The plan seems to be working on at least one of the developers who received a free phone.

“You will not hear me bad-mouth Samsung again,” CyanogenMod team member Atinm tweeted on Monday.

Get free stuff, stop criticizing. Not exactly the "hacker ethos" on display there.

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RE[3]: Message?
by Luminair on Fri 10th Jun 2011 04:23 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Message?"
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not exactly. he is referring to badmouthing about their bad developer support. clearly they are improving their developer support.

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Bravo Samsung, Bravo!!
by duplex80 on Thu 9th Jun 2011 16:56 UTC
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HTC commits to unlocked bootloaders and now Samsung embraces my favorite modding group (HTC Inspire 4G/Ace - CM 7.0.3). Hey Motorola, where are you?

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RE: Bravo Samsung, Bravo!!
by sb56637 on Thu 9th Jun 2011 17:57 UTC in reply to "Bravo Samsung, Bravo!!"
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No kidding. Motorola!!! I own a Droid 2 Global, from a hardware perspective probably the best QWERTY Android phone available. But locked bootloader = no custom kernels and hardly any ROMS. Shame on Motorola.

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Comment by neticspace
by neticspace on Fri 10th Jun 2011 04:21 UTC
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Samsung learned an important lesson from Sony. And yes, Samsung is smart enough that they can't make quality software. So after all, Samsung is only a great hardware maker.

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