Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jun 2011 15:08 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Palm HP has finally officially announced the release of the TouchPad! Sadly though, it will only see a phased roll-out over the remainder of the year, and the number of countries actually getting the TouchPad is remarkably limited. Somewhat of a downer, really.
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Comment by orestes
by orestes on Thu 9th Jun 2011 15:21 UTC
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Cool toy. I hope they manage to knock one out of the park with the marketing.

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by pmac on Thu 9th Jun 2011 15:24 UTC
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These look nice, but with an Android phone, I'd have to go with an Android tablet. I imagine others will think the same, be they iPhone or Android users. So, I think they might be too late. Thom, why would you even want to pair a Windows phone with a WebOS tablet? You'd have to buy apps twice etc.

Edited 2011-06-09 15:25 UTC

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RE: Locked-in
by WorknMan on Thu 9th Jun 2011 15:57 UTC in reply to "Locked-in"
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These look nice, but with an Android phone, I'd have to go with an Android tablet. I imagine others will think the same, be they iPhone or Android users.

Actually, nothing could be further from the truth in my case. Since I have an Android phone, I am seriously considering an iPad when the next one comes out. That way, I have access to apps in both ecosystems.

That being said though, I have little to know interest in this HP tablet. A co-worker of mine who is a webos fan recently migrated over to Android, mainly because of poor app selection on webos. That doesn't give me much hope for a tablet version, but I guess we'll see.

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RE[2]: Locked-in
by David on Thu 9th Jun 2011 16:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Locked-in"
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On the other hand, if you use a lot of paid apps, that's not the most economical choice. If you have an iPhone, you can use all the apps you've already paid for on your iPad. If you get an Android or WebOS tablet, you'll have to buy your apps again, unless the app maker arranges for a "competitive upgrade" or something like that.

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RE[3]: Locked-in
by Lennie on Sat 11th Jun 2011 10:08 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Locked-in"
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The whole platform specific appstore model is just plain wrong. I can't see myself buying into it.

Edited 2011-06-11 10:10 UTC

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Comment by henderson101
by henderson101 on Thu 9th Jun 2011 15:53 UTC
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It *does* look like a nice product (but then so did the Playbook) and it does have a slick looking UI... but then iOS 5 exists, and negates everything else for me.

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No Messenger
by ramasubbu_sk on Thu 9th Jun 2011 17:34 UTC
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There is no SkyPE or Live!Messenger or Yahoo!Messenger for these, so no use for me ;)

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RE: No Messenger
by Moochman on Thu 9th Jun 2011 22:52 UTC in reply to "No Messenger"
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No Skype, but Live Messenger and Yahoo are available via third-party Synergy plug-ins. And they integrate seamlessly with the messaging app.

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RE[2]: No Messenger
by VZsolt on Fri 10th Jun 2011 04:21 UTC in reply to "RE: No Messenger"
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There's also IM+, supporting quite a few protocols out of the box, which I used on WebOS 1.4.5. No Skype though, as 3rd party apps have been systematically killed through the last year.

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looks cool
by senshikaze on Thu 9th Jun 2011 17:50 UTC
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Looks really cool. Hopefully HP will open up the webOS to manufacturers so HTC can make a webOS phone.
I'd like to play with it, but I don't know anyone who owns one.

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Too expensive :)
by Neolander on Thu 9th Jun 2011 18:31 UTC
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So that at least someone has said it.

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by apoclypse on Thu 9th Jun 2011 19:16 UTC
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Well, in HPs defense, Apple didn't start releasing to other countries overnight. In-fact I seem to remember the iPad being released in very few countries then getting sold in more countries as Apple secured their distribution channels. Starting slow is exactly what HP needs to do.

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Today's announcement showcased what HP was ready to talk about today -- it doesn't rule out other announcements (about features, partners, geographies) in the future.

Also, ramasubbu_sk: released webOS devices do support Yahoo messenger already, and have for quite a while.

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I think what got to Thom is, HP had this big announcement monts ago about what product they would release and how we all had to wait 4 months before they would release a product.

And then it turns out they didn't release it for his country, any time soon.

It would be better if they would have been clear about it from the start.

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Finally a true Annoucement
by kjamc1982 on Fri 10th Jun 2011 00:50 UTC
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I have been waiting for this to finally be announced by HP/Palm since February 9th that I was almost about to jump ship. Yes the App Catalog in webOS is not all that great however, I rarely use more than one or two apps at a time. I came from using an Android base phone and the way you manage apps is so crappy that I left Android for webOS. I am a huge podcast listener and the podcast client Google built for Android just sucks. The one the homebrew community release called drPodder makes me a happy webOS user. Yes, I know Apple's iOS is the multimedia king. However, Apple's iOS UI needs an update in my crazy opinion. Recently Apple talked about location base reminders at the WWDC event, you have been able to do that in webOS since the beginning with an app called GeoStrings. Notifications is better in webOS than the annoying pop ups of iOS.

Also, HP and Palm have been really good to the homebrew community and all with giving them a $10k server. The ease of using an overclocked kernel is easier in webOS than Android(do not have to root the device). You can almost not brick one of these phones. The community of webOS fans is great. The developers are easy to get a hold of on Twitter and will try to work with you on trying to fix the problems you have. Some of the webOS fans are really dedicated to the OS, there are some people out there still using two year Palm Pre's that are falling apart.

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RE: Finally a true Annoucement
by Neolander on Fri 10th Jun 2011 07:36 UTC in reply to "Finally a true Annoucement"
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Notice that notifications have recently improved in iOS 5 to reach the quality standards of other modern mobile OSs, though I think they've kept this silly "application grid" home screen, making in the end the lock screen paradoxically display more meaningful information.

Edited 2011-06-10 07:37 UTC

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A couple things...
by kcorey on Fri 10th Jun 2011 08:01 UTC
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In the third paragraph I think you're looking for 'entrench', as in dig in for defense, rather than 'entrance', as in distribute the drugs more widely...

About the TouchPad, I'm going to be cheering it on...but only from the sidelines. As an ex-PalmPilot programmer I saw wave after wave of half-hearted efforts to revitalise the PalmPilot space. Different CPUs, different APIs, different OSes, pathetic developer support, fumbled marketing efforts, and frankly *crap* app store efforts.

That's not to say there weren't stars out there: people who were trying their utmost to make it happen. The problem was that they were mostly at the lower levels of the organisation. You didn't have one over-controlling, paranoid, self-centered, egomaniacal guy saying "it's going to be like *this*".

Much as I don't care for Jobs and the choices he's made for the iPads, (no flash? You gotta be kidding me, just throw the dummy out the pram already), he's made the most compelling platform, tied up with the most compelling content.

This is the key thing, as without content, it's just a shiny paperweight. Don't believe me? Try one of those horrible cheap Chinese Android tablets that can't access the app market. They're just paperweights, without the shiny bit. (Google, what were you thinking? You have two whole generations of tablet impressions out there that android tablets are rubbish. Even if slow, those Chinese tablets would have been interesting if they could only have hit the app market.)

With the littered path of broken Palm promises, HP's going to have a long row to hoe to win back developer (content creator?) trust.

The fact that people are willing to lumber themselves with the abomination that is iTunes just to make the iOS platform work says an awful lot about the quality of the iOS platform.

For my money, I'll be buying the next-gen iPad, I reckon...all the while cheering for HP. Go team!

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Comment by ArKay
by ArKay on Tue 14th Jun 2011 06:51 UTC
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Instead of bitching you could have asked one of your fellow German readers to get one for you, but alas ;)

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