Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 14th Jul 2011 19:33 UTC
Podcasts Spotify launched in the US today, to become the third serious provider after MOG and RDIO services that offer unlimited streaming of their catalog for a rather small-ish monthly fee. Napster, Real, ZunePass, Thumbplay (now sold away), also offer a similar service, but they never managed to capture the market the same way. I have used all three services above over the last year (some in a short trial mode, some through lengthy subscription), so here's how I see them go down.
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Spotify in the UK
by lucas_maximus on Thu 14th Jul 2011 21:22 UTC
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

@Eugenia

In the UK for ages we had Ad based listen to anything free service ... now we have 10 hours a month ... before I upgraded (it was less than a couple of pints of Ale down the local).

It concided with this article

http://www.themusicvoid.com/2011/04/spotify-labels-trying-to-kill-a...

Which you may be interested in.

Spotify is IMO a good way of stopping piracy because the price is just right, it is cheap enough that it is more effort to pirate than to pay to use it.

I really like it.

Last.FM is a different niche IMO ... more social music.

Edited 2011-07-14 21:29 UTC

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RE: Spotify in the UK
by Zaitch on Fri 15th Jul 2011 08:42 UTC in reply to "Spotify in the UK"
Zaitch Member since:
2007-11-23

You hit the nail on the head. Spotify at 5ukp a month is a no brainer, less than the price of a single album. I never bought a lot of music ( a few albums a year maybe ), nor pirated it, preferring to listen to online streaming radio etc. However at 5ukp a month I took the plunge and have not regretted it at all, very pleased customer here. Price and service is just right.

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RE: Spotify in the UK
by kittynipples on Mon 18th Jul 2011 12:20 UTC in reply to "Spotify in the UK"
kittynipples Member since:
2006-08-02

Artists make almost no money from services like Spotify, so it's not like the piracy angle benefits them anyway.

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Rhapsody
by Casey99 on Thu 14th Jul 2011 21:32 UTC
Casey99
Member since:
2011-07-14

Don't count out Rhapsody yet. They may not have the hype lately, but various sources still claim Rhapsody has the most subscribers in the US. Not to mention the other various on-demand services offered that you did not mention. Slacker Premium, Qriocity, Kazaa, and Grooveshark all want a piece of the market as well.

Other than that I agree with your observations. Rdio simply has too few songs to make it worth while.

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RE: Rhapsody
by WorknMan on Thu 14th Jul 2011 22:24 UTC in reply to "Rhapsody"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Don't count out Rhapsody yet. They may not have the hype lately, but various sources still claim Rhapsody has the most subscribers in the US.


Last time I tried them, they had some gaping holes in their library, but that was admittedly a few years ago. I ran into the same problem with Zune.

I wish iTunes would come out with a streaming service, assuming they had their entire library available for streaming. Hell, I'd buy an iPod just for that.

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kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

If Google and Amazon implemented their music services with half a brain just hashing your legal files on the client and then looking for matches that are already on their servers should speed up uploading quite a lot.
Most digital music in this world is copied from just a few sources. Most people don't rip their stuff, only geeks do.

Wuala already does that and for popular files the upload is just the time it takes to encrypt and hash the file.

But yeah, at the moment uploading sux.

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spotify
by broken_symlink on Thu 14th Jul 2011 22:01 UTC
broken_symlink
Member since:
2005-07-06

Free spotify seems to be invite only...

edit: i was wondering. does anyone know how spotify compares to grooveshark in terms of catalog size?

Edited 2011-07-14 22:04 UTC

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RE: spotify
by Eugenia on Thu 14th Jul 2011 22:08 UTC in reply to "spotify"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

GrooveShark is theoretically unlimited, since it's the users who upload songs, not the service. But the service is under fire from labels (sued), and its mobile apps are ousted from app stores. So I don't see this is as a serious contender to be honest. It might work for those who don't care getting a licensed, consistent-quality service, but not for the rest.

Edited 2011-07-14 22:09 UTC

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RE[2]: spotify
by Casey99 on Thu 14th Jul 2011 22:33 UTC in reply to "RE: spotify"
Casey99 Member since:
2011-07-14

Grooveshark has a tremendous following for their free service. Assuming they can win their legal battles, they could become a very difficult competitor.

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RE[3]: spotify
by muszek on Fri 15th Jul 2011 11:49 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: spotify"
muszek Member since:
2007-04-25

I use Grooveshark from time to time to give my friends a link to a song, but the catalog is painfully spotty and inconsistent (because people usually do a crappy job tagging their libraries)... I can't imagine using it to listen regularly.

Unfortunately I live in a wrong country, so I can't check out any other service, but I imagine I'd have a much better time using them.

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One other thing ...
by WorknMan on Thu 14th Jul 2011 22:33 UTC
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

I haven't tried Spotify yet, but I see a lot of Ars commenters that are pissed off because the free service that Spotify offers ain't that great. Are people so f**king cheap these days that they refuse to pay for ANYTHING?

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RE: One other thing ...
by eml.nu on Fri 15th Jul 2011 06:07 UTC in reply to "One other thing ..."
eml.nu Member since:
2006-07-04

We are cheap because we were used to unlimited music with ads. 10 hours per week isn't the only limit - you can only listen to the same song 5 times.

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RE[2]: One other thing ...
by WereCatf on Fri 15th Jul 2011 11:30 UTC in reply to "RE: One other thing ..."
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

We are cheap because we were used to unlimited music with ads. 10 hours per week isn't the only limit - you can only listen to the same song 5 times.


In other words you're just spoiled and that's why you're whining?

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RE: One other thing ...
by WereCatf on Fri 15th Jul 2011 11:29 UTC in reply to "One other thing ..."
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I haven't tried Spotify yet, but I see a lot of Ars commenters that are pissed off because the free service that Spotify offers ain't that great. Are people so f**king cheap these days that they refuse to pay for ANYTHING?


Agreed. The free Spotify subscription is just meant for sampling the service without having to pay for it, it's simply not meant to be a full-blown service without any payments.

I've been a Spotify Premium subscriber for a long time now and I'm absolutely delighted with it. I just wish they'd make a tablet-optimized version of their Android client, the phone-optimized one is simply unuseable on a tablet.

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MOG User
by ccraig13 on Fri 15th Jul 2011 05:28 UTC
ccraig13
Member since:
2011-05-31

I've been using MOG for about a year now and it's been great, until recently. The iPhone app no longer remembers where you left off after quitting and reopening. IT USED TO DO THIS UP UNTIL TWO UPDATES AGO! WTF are they doing over there?! Plus I hate the "queue" (Especially because of the bug I just described. It kinda sucks to have to scroll through your entire queue to get to the song you were just playing that's 100 positions in! ). Keep the queue if you must MOG, but sometimes I just want to play a few songs from an album and be done with them... Oh well maybe Spotify will float my boat ;)

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Why rent your music when you can buy it?
by porcel on Fri 15th Jul 2011 10:35 UTC
porcel
Member since:
2006-01-28

You can have all the free sampling you want on youtube or any other "service" out there.

I want the music stored on my server, thank you very much. I am perfectly capable of streaming it to any device I may want to use it.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

You can have all the free sampling you want on youtube or any other "service" out there.

I want the music stored on my server, thank you very much. I am perfectly capable of streaming it to any device I may want to use it.


With a service like this it's a whole lot easier to find new bands to listen to. Going through YouTube for example is tedious and slow whereas in Spotify et. al. you just tap on "Next." I've found dozens of bands that I would've never found otherwise just by stumbling around on Spotify.

THAT is exactly the strength of these kinds of services.

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Might as well create an interface around Youtube so you can click next then.

Obviously that already exists:

http://blip.fm/

But I'm not a user of any of the mentioned services or blib so I probably have it all wrong. :-)

Edited 2011-07-15 12:29 UTC

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Spotify in the U.S. does not include Radio
by kurtx on Sun 17th Jul 2011 21:48 UTC
kurtx
Member since:
2011-07-17

Spotify has confirmed that they are not currently offering a Radio option for their service in the U.S.A. It is DOA until this is enabled.

http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/where_is_the_radio-l8mms

http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/wheres_the_radio-1h5n7b

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:confuse:
by Beta on Tue 19th Jul 2011 13:10 UTC
Beta
Member since:
2005-07-06

Is this a podcast? For some reason it’s in my podcatcher feed linking to http://osnews.com/audio/

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