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A web app that looks like a desktop is not an operating system. Calling it such is an insult to anyone who has ever tried to create one.
It is as much an OS as Windows 3/95/98/me were
No it isn't. Windows 95/98/Me are real operating systems, SivlerOS isn't. And before we go there; no, Windows 95/98/me was not glorified DOS shells.
But one based on a web browser is? Thanks for clearing that up.
It came from the issue I had with the original post saying that this isn't an OS. Why not? Why does he get to decide what an OS is.
I was speaking about ChromeOS, because it's just a browser running on Linux. Why is this any different?
ChromeOS is just a bunch Web apps running in a browser. Is it because it runs on Windows? Because it's Silverlight? Google didn't write the rest of the stack, just the interface.
I don't see the difference, other than one is made by google, and one was made by this dude. Maybe it just a toy, but applaud the guys effort, his willingness to try something, and not put him down for no good reason.
But, ChromeOS technically IS NOT an OS.
An OS is something that handles memory allocation, virtual memory handling, threading, multitasking, communication with devices, filesystem management, etc.
If you take something that runs on top of any kernel (say Linux, Windows NT kernel, etc.) is not an OS.
I see ChromeOS as a desktop environment, not quite different than Gnome or KDE, just running on top of one more abstraction layer: the browser. Edited 2011-08-17 14:44 UTC
I agree with you a hundred percent. This is no different than ChromeOS, and ChromeOS is not an OS.
ChromeOS is an OS, unless I'm misunderstood. If I download an image of what's called "ChromeOS" (or "ChromiumOS"), burn it on a CD/DVD, and run it on my computer, it works in a freestanding fashion, right ?
I couldn't agree more. At the same time most programmers can't distinguish between their ass and their face so I'm not surprised.
A Silverlight application linked/embedded into HTML also isn't really a web app.
That's why I called it an "operating system" app.
Such apps are good for demoing what can be achieved with specific technology, but I can't see anyone actually using it.
From a user perspective it's pretty pointless.
In theory, and let me emphasize theory, you could do a Chrome OS type of thing ... take a barebones OS, add a web rendering engine, a Silverlight or a Flash runtime and add your "Web OS" on top.
Granted the web part is more of a shell or a desktop environment than an OS.
as in ChromeOS, these things would be provided by the "Real" OS running underneath it.
We are talking about how to define an OS and how Silverlight OS fits that definition. And I'm saying that nowadays the UI is the OS to most people, so Silverlight OS and other "Web OSes" can theoretically be considered OSes if you slap a Linux, BSD or Windows foundation under them.
Yeah no. I suggest you read the definition of Operating System, and then look at the functions provided by Silverlight. Shell, command interpreter, programming environment might all be better descriptors.
What part of put a foundation underneath it don't you understand?
Very nicely done. I like it. Good work devs!
Is it just me, or do youtube videos play smoother inside this silverlight OS youtube app... than they do inside Firefox6.0 and IE9.
Doesn't work with moonlight, as far as I can tell.
another very good reason the people at Redmond shouldn't be allowed to create technology for the web. They only create technology for their os (and sometimes mac). I am glad silverlight didn't take off in any kind of appreciable way, or I'd be SOL on the web.
As far as I can remember this is only the second time in four years that I've been prompted to install Silverlight. The first time was on the Microsoft site whilst trying to look at a video about what Silverlight was. Which required Silverlight. And now number two, demonstrating what Silverlight's capable of. Is it actually used anywhere in anger? Even the Realplayer plugin is more commonly used nowerdays ... Not that I install that either.
Has anyone found a real, bonafide, business-like implementation of Silverlight on the web?
The British Library's "Turning The Pages" was my first sighting of Silverlight in the wild:
It turned out it was part-funded by Microsoft, however! Edited 2011-08-17 12:28 UTC
Other than that, I don't know anything else either. Except maybe, didn't NBC also stream the previous Olympics with Silverlight?
From the project's website:
Convenience and freedom - A personalized desktop, files, apps are available and accessible from any computer in the world.
Well, I can't access it from any computer I own or use daily. Freedom, they say?
I think I just died inside...
Cool. Though it should be noted, you don't need Silverlight to do this kind of thing...
> Convenience and freedom - A personalized desktop,
> files, apps are available and accessible from any
> computer in the world.
Proprietary technologies (like Silverlight) don't promote freedom.
What, you don't cherish the opportunity to run an inferior Windows clone on, uh, Windows anywhere?