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Where is Archos? Where is PenPointOS (1991)? Where is the DynaBook (1968)? Where is the Knight Ridder?

Want me to go on?

Edited 2011-08-18 20:42 UTC

That's not what I said. *sigh*.

Of course the iPad inspired current tablets. All I'm saying is that countless tablets before the iPad inspired the iPad - something Apple fanatics refuse to admit.

*bangs head on desk*

I give up.

Applefans only fallow what great leader steve jobs tells them

Or was it simply an evolution of technology, which Apple was the first to implement? Improved ARM processors which didn't suck which generate minimum heat and new manufacturing processes likely made the new generation possible.

Furthermore, when Multi-touch came to fruition (which wasn't something Apple invented btw), removing all but one or two buttons because obvious, and when you look at usability, placing it on the bottom makes sense (because you shouldn't need to stretch over the screen to go back a page). Changing the way the OS works and interacts with the user also becomes obvious.

Smartphones would have evolved in that direction anyway honestly. But, had any other manufacturer released such a product, they wouldn't have succeeded because they don't have the fan base.

Furthermore, you are totally forgetting about ebook readers, which had a similar design.

Apple might deserve some credit, but I believe if they didn't exist, the market might have gone in that direction anyway.

I was asking a multimedia version(color LCD) of iRex iLiad back in 2006. And when Apple finally introduced iPad I was thankful that someone has finally did it - a lightweight hyper low power device*. My problem with iPad is only the OS - it's not adapted in any meaningful way(iOS5 should be changing some of those issues).

Apple again shook-up the market, but they did not introduce anything ideologically new.

* - Since ULPs may refer to Intel's Atom crap.

See my comment on jennymc, it appears it is applicable to a number of iFanatics

This was a real product: http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/03/crunchpad-the-launch-prototype/

You are looking at photos of an actual prototype in an article dated six months before the Ipad was announced.

SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE IPAD WAS ANNOUNCED.

Correction, the iPad is a clone / copy / fake of the Knight Ridder. :-) Remember the Knight Ridder came 17 year before the iPad.

Well, even a blind man can see (or feel) that Samsung and its ilk ripped off the iPad with their designs. Question is, should they be sued for it? "

Actually I would say that both Samsung and Apple ripped off Knight Ridder, since they built it first. But I'm sure you don't want to hear that.

What, like Apple facts, aka create-your-own-evidence?

Square with round-corners is not a new design, period.

Of course, when Apple rips off other designs it is called "paying homage" or "re-inventing existing designs" or it's just outright denied. When someone creates something vaguely Apple-like it's a horrible rip-off and a crime almost comparable to genocide.

blahblahblah
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/03/samsungpictureframe.jpg

blahblahblah
http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/03/samsungpictureframe.jpg "

And these are all different


http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category/televisions/21344.aspx?path=70...

You really think a large touchscreen with a battery is a great invention that a 6 year old couldn't have thought of?

Not "even", but "mostly".
And the question is what make these man blind in the first place?

According to Apple, they have a patent (community design or whatever) on a rectangle shape. So they should then sue every LCD makes, TV manufacturer, every car maker, every PC casing manufacturer, keyboard manufacturers, etc... oh the windows in my house are also rectangular, so they should also be put in the pot.

This is absolutely absurd!!! Apple is now (and maybe even worse) than the Microsoft from the 90's.

Obviously not, since pretty much every other tablet that came before the iPad was rectangle in design, so there's gotta be more to it than that. Do you even know the nature of the patent(s)?

Wow ! Did I just read that well, or is there a typo ?
Now, how about adding that "iPhone inspired Galaxy S phone" as well ?
How about also "App Store app inspired Android Market app" ?

Besides that, I don't recall hearing from Apple executives that they invented the smartphone or the tablets. But They have been successful reinventing them so that it would not just be for nerds, but also compelling for average Joe.

I can't think the same for Google on Android, they really just look like playing catchup from the beginning. Market share (> iPhone) is coming from its willingness to not compete on the hardware side (initially before last Monday), and giving for free (or close to) so that existing major manufacturers switch to it, replacing Windows Mobile OS and Symbian underneath the interface (remember how hard it has been for Google to inially convince them to come aboard, until it became obvious they had to do it or else, becoming irrellevant like Nokia).

All the openness has just been for PR, to please nerds but you could see how nervous they got if you take Android as is (open source), asking you to not load Google Apps if doing so (Maps, Market, Gmail, etc).

Thats some neat propaganda you posted there. So... tell me. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1381528/Knight-Ridde...

which was never built

The point is that the design was right there. All Apple had to do was tell a hardware maker: "make me something like this"

So now we wait until someone asks to build a flying car I guess.

Oh, come on. This topic and discussion is about desing, not the inside workings of the tablets/phones. So yes, if today you created a prototype for a flying car, then in 5-10-whatever years when the technology is ready, anyone could create a model based on your design (as long as the laws of physics allow it).

If they did, the creators of The Jetsons would have just as much of a case as Apple does against Samsung. Oh, and speaking of tech companies stealing ideas from science fiction:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/08/how-star-trek-artists-ima...

How can Apple steal stuff that hasn't been made yet? Star Trek is set way in to the future. Steve himself said Apple can't break the laws of physics, yet.

I'd explain it to you, but most people have difficulty understanding statements made in the Future Semi-Conditionally Modified Subinverted Plagal Past Subjunctive Intentional tense.

Except Star Trek is not something from the future. It's a modern-day fiction show. Which means that modern-day designers worked on it, and came up with the tablet design.

(And in a better way, I think, since ST's tablets can apparently be thrown around without breaking. Metal and glass sure are aesthetically pleasing, but not such a good idea on a device that you carry around... Oh, well, guess someone will someday figure out that plastic is not only suitable for cheap stuff)

Edited 2011-08-22 10:04 UTC

This was posted from another OSNews article...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1381528/Knight-Ridde...

Also, when you say "before IPad and after IPad" you could replace IPad with "Black Eyed Peas", "Lady Gaga", or "2007".... it doesn't mean anything.

I think etch a sketch should take apple to court over community design in EU. They obviously have prior art on this.

From what I've heard now is that the Knight Rider never came to the market. The iPad did and this is when The Others started planning theirs.

They didn't do this after the Knight Rider or any other ancient tablet, not even after the Microsoft tablet PCs. So the release of the iPad is a significant point in time and influenced what came after it.

But again I personally don't mind other tablets looking like the iPad.

I also don't consider "etch a sketch" a tablet computer. They are fun though!

So there is no other form factor for a media streaming device either cause its so obvious right?

http://images.apple.com/appletv/images/specs_dimensions20100901.jpg

I mean who does Apple think they are? Why should they be the only one that can use designs they build?

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/08a9f.jpg

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/5a755.jpg

My old Linksys wag-200g adsl modem is also a square with rounded corners (apparently that's now a "design")...

I'm pretty sure it came well before apple tv, linksys should totaly sue

Edited 2011-08-19 07:36 UTC

if your Linksys was a media streamer and had optical and Ethernet on the back you'd have a case, but since thats not the case...

No. He definitely had the "case" before the Apple TV/Mac Mini.

Apple's action of merely swapping the innards does not make the enclosure an original Apple design.

Edited 2011-08-20 05:46 UTC

Yeah pretty much sums up how I feel about them. I can't believe HP has gone and rolled over as well. I like their laptops and was thinking the company was on track to a revival. Obviously short term blindness (A Western Capitalism Affliction) seems to have taken another victim.

And we wonder why we are falling off a cliff in slow motion??

Dear Apple, stop being such techno PRICKS and allow consumers the freedom to choose what they want without your behind the scenes manipulations.

Correct me if I am wrong but Samsung has the ability to manufacture every part of the tablet, except maybe for the glass panel, and that is the "threat" Apples sees.