Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 12th Oct 2011 18:28 UTC
Apple It's a busy day for Apple today. Not only has the company launched its iCloud service for everyone, they also released Mac OS X 10.7.2. To top it all off, as expected, the company launched iOS 5.0 today, bringing a host of much-needed and long-awaited new features to iOS.
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Ouch
by bowkota on Wed 12th Oct 2011 18:42 UTC
bowkota
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2011-10-12

Windows re install ? Ouch. Although I assume you mean a system restore from an external backup, which doesn't take that long and is less painful.

The notifications are the most welcome change but a very significant one is iMessage. Yes Skype et al do the same thing but they're not as integrated. Nice jab at the carriers.

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RE: Ouch
by Neolander on Wed 12th Oct 2011 19:05 UTC in reply to "Ouch"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

The notifications are the most welcome change but a very significant one is iMessage. Yes Skype et al do the same thing but they're not as integrated. Nice jab at the carriers.

In France, unlimited data plans always come with unlimited texts, and it is cheaper to get unlimited texts alone. It seems to me that this severely reduces the usefulness of the iMessage feature, as texts work with phones from all manufacturers, work in areas where data doesn't, and are more power-efficient because your phone has to keep a GSM/CDMA connection alive anyway so they come for "free". Is the situation different where you live ?

Edited 2011-10-12 19:07 UTC

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RE[2]: Ouch
by leonalpha on Wed 12th Oct 2011 19:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Ouch"
leonalpha Member since:
2011-02-02



"The notifications are the most welcome change but a very significant one is iMessage. Yes Skype et al do the same thing but they're not as integrated. Nice jab at the carriers.

In France, unlimited data plans always come with unlimited texts, and it is cheaper to get unlimited texts alone. It seems to me that this severely reduces the usefulness of the iMessage feature, as texts work with phones from all manufacturers, work in areas where data doesn't, and are more power-efficient because your phone has to keep a GSM/CDMA connection alive anyway so they come for "free". Is the situation different where you live ?
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Oh man, just had to quote this... too funny :-)

Edited 2011-10-12 19:23 UTC

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RE[3]: Ouch
by Neolander on Wed 12th Oct 2011 19:25 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Ouch"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

If I did not make this clear enough, I was talking about unlimited texts ;)

Edited 2011-10-12 19:33 UTC

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RE[4]: Ouch
by backdoc on Wed 12th Oct 2011 20:05 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Ouch"
backdoc Member since:
2006-01-14

I think you were clear. I think he was being sarcastic because we no competition in the US.

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RE[2]: Ouch
by madmalkav on Wed 12th Oct 2011 20:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Ouch"
madmalkav Member since:
2009-04-25

Here in Spain carriers only gives us unlimited headaches.

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RE[2]: Ouch
by roverrobot on Wed 12th Oct 2011 23:51 UTC in reply to "RE: Ouch"
roverrobot Member since:
2006-07-23

In France, unlimited data plans always come with unlimited texts, and it is cheaper to get unlimited texts alone. It seems to me that this severely reduces the usefulness of the iMessage feature, as texts work with phones from all manufacturers, work in areas where data doesn't, and are more power-efficient because your phone has to keep a GSM/CDMA connection alive anyway so they come for "free". Is the situation different where you live ?

It is a general solution for apple device users, not just iPhone. I am not surprised that Mac OS X will get text message eventually, and iPod touch, and iPad. just like FaceTime.

Admittedly, I don't quite find it useful yet, simply because most of the ones that I want to talk to does not have an apple device.

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RE[3]: Ouch
by f0dder on Sat 15th Oct 2011 13:02 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Ouch"
f0dder Member since:
2009-08-05

Would've been kinda nice if they had built it atop of something open, such as Jabber/XMPP... but knowing Apple, let me guess - it's their own entirely proprietary protocol?

I laughed when I saw the iText feature being advertised with "now you can see if people have read your message!" - yeah, because SMS hasn't supported delivery reports for... like, forever.

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RE[2]: Ouch
by kristoph on Thu 13th Oct 2011 03:02 UTC in reply to "RE: Ouch"
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

In the US we totally pay through the nose for text messages. I pay USD 25 a month for an unlimited text plan for the family. Using iMessage I can go down to a basic plan which costs only USD 10 so this one app would be a huge savings.

(Needless to say, this only applies if your family members all have an iPhone which is probably the whole reason for this app, to lock in the whole family into iThings.)

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RE[3]: Ouch
by Neolander on Thu 13th Oct 2011 05:41 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Ouch"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

And this $10/month basic plan already includes unlimited data ? Now THAT is incredibly cheap by my French standards ;) (basic plans are things like 30 min talk that you can sometimes convert to 100 sms here) Indeed, it would make iMessage (or competing solutions such as Skype, WLM... for that matter) an interesting option for US citizens.

Edited 2011-10-13 05:46 UTC

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Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 12th Oct 2011 20:57 UTC
Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

As if the unremovable Apple crapware wasn't enough in iOS, the new Newsstand application can't even be tucked away in a folder! Wtf?!

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old phones
by viton on Wed 12th Oct 2011 21:39 UTC
viton
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2005-08-09
Copied what?
by dmrio on Thu 13th Oct 2011 19:18 UTC
dmrio
Member since:
2005-08-26

Apple should be sued by someone because of that... I am pretty sure there is some patent somewhere in the world just for that.

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