Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd Jan 2012 19:12 UTC, submitted by Jett
OSNews, Generic OSes We're looking at two alternative operating systems hitting updates. MenuetOS, the operating system written entirely in assembly, hit version 0.98.27. Meanwhile, FreeDOS 1.1 has hit final.
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Evolution
by fithisux on Mon 2nd Jan 2012 19:51 UTC
fithisux
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2006-01-22

My question about FreeDos is whether its aim is to become a clone of MS-DOS or improve and evolve the concept?

In any case it is a useful project.

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RE: Evolution
by reez on Mon 2nd Jan 2012 20:24 UTC in reply to "Evolution"
reez Member since:
2006-06-28

It appears to be mostly about cloning.

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Comment by csynt
by csynt on Mon 2nd Jan 2012 20:40 UTC
csynt
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2006-03-19

now all I want is full HDA sound under DOS!

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RE: Comment by csynt
by Rugxulo on Tue 3rd Jan 2012 21:53 UTC in reply to "Comment by csynt"
Rugxulo Member since:
2007-10-09

Don't get your hopes up, hardware is always a mess, but try one of these:

http://mpxplay.sourceforge.net/
http://www.piotrkn22.republika.pl/judas/index.html

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Ah FreeDOS!
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 2nd Jan 2012 21:46 UTC
Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

When I lived in the embedded world, our OS was DOS. Not MS-DOS, or , saddly, not Free DOS, but Data Light ROMDOS. Which was not free, or good. Most of the utils were absolutely broken. I was not allowed to replace ROMDOS with FreeDOS in production, but did most of my development of our app on FreeDOS because stuff just worked.

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Luposian
Member since:
2005-07-27

I'd love to try out Menuet64, but my Gateway AMD A6-3400M laptop uses only USB or CD to boot from. Any idea if a way exists to boot Menuet64 either way?

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Sodki Member since:
2005-11-10

I'd love to try out Menuet64, but my Gateway AMD A6-3400M laptop uses only USB or CD to boot from. Any idea if a way exists to boot Menuet64 either way?


In the download section of the MenuetOS website, there's a link named "Download Menuet CD". You can follow that link to download an ISO file.

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Comment by kurkosdr
by kurkosdr on Mon 2nd Jan 2012 22:44 UTC
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2011-04-11

"My question about FreeDos is whether its aim is to become a clone of MS-DOS or improve and evolve the concept?"

Mainly a clone of MS-DOS with better hardware support, LFNs and lots of utilites.

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RE: Comment by kurkosdr
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 3rd Jan 2012 03:01 UTC in reply to "Comment by kurkosdr"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

There are some improvements, like command history and tab completion. But in general, they keep it pretty close to MS DOS so all of the apps will still work. Its the only way some dos games I have work.

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Holy crap, USB support?
by tidux on Tue 3rd Jan 2012 04:47 UTC
tidux
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2011-08-13

Seriously, I'd absolutely love it if there were full support for FAT32 flash media - imagine syncing your Android phone with a DOS machine!

EDIT: another idea: bootable DOS flashdrives!

Edited 2012-01-03 04:53 UTC

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RE: Holy crap, USB support?
by yoshi314@gmail.com on Tue 3rd Jan 2012 12:40 UTC in reply to "Holy crap, USB support?"
yoshi314@gmail.com Member since:
2009-12-14

the latter is already possible.

syslinux + memdisk and you can boot freedos from a stick.

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Pun
by judgen on Tue 3rd Jan 2012 13:57 UTC
judgen
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2006-07-12

Give me FreeDOS or give me death, =P I just had to. Sorry.

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All this time...
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 3rd Jan 2012 15:17 UTC
UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

...for a downgrade in several ways. Yay, FreeDOS. Good thing that, although interested, I didn't get my hopes too high. What a disappointment.

Oh well... it's only really a "toy" OS to me to begin with, which DOSBox can replace for my typical use anyway.

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RE: All this time...
by Rugxulo on Tue 3rd Jan 2012 21:57 UTC in reply to "All this time..."
Rugxulo Member since:
2007-10-09

...for a downgrade in several ways. Yay, FreeDOS. Good thing that, although interested, I didn't get my hopes too high. What a disappointment.

Oh well... it's only really a "toy" OS to me to begin with, which DOSBox can replace for my typical use anyway.


DOSBox is only meant for games, not anything else. It is not meant to be a full DOS.

Anyways, I have no idea what you mean. It's not a downgrade, but indeed this prepackaged version is more minimal than the old full one as volunteers are extremely low. You'll have to download stuff individually if you want it, and I'm sure I can point you to whatever you were expecting.

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RE[2]: All this time...
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 3rd Jan 2012 23:59 UTC in reply to "RE: All this time..."
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

DOSBox is only meant for games, not anything else. It is not meant to be a full DOS.

Yes, I know--and like I said, DOSBox does what I need.

Anyways, I have no idea what you mean. It's not a downgrade, but indeed this prepackaged version is more minimal than the old full one as volunteers are extremely low. You'll have to download stuff individually if you want it, and I'm sure I can point you to whatever you were expecting.

You just mentioned some of the downsides of the "upgrade" right there, so I'm not sure how you have no idea what I mean: more minimal (could be an advantage to some people) and manual installation of most programs; basically lack of anything but the "base" CD. Lack of "live" portion of the disc is another step back, although IMO a less important one.

It's just disappointing after such a long wait to see such glaring steps back. If it had package management, it wouldn't be quite as bad... but it doesn't, at least as far as I know.

Edited 2012-01-04 00:00 UTC

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R.I.P. Pat Villani (DOS-C kernel author)
by Rugxulo on Tue 3rd Jan 2012 22:03 UTC
Rugxulo
Member since:
2007-10-09

P.S. Since OS News (and others) never mentioned it, I guess now would be a good time to publicly mourn the passing of Pat Villani, the original author of the DOS-C kernel used by FreeDOS. He was head of the project, even recently, from 2009-11 until he got sick and never recovered. :-( Without his hard work, there literally would be no FreeDOS kernel (also used by DOSEMU). I know he's no Steve Jobs or Dennis Ritchie, but he still impacted a lot of us in a good way. The FreeDOS 1.1 release is dedicated to him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Villani
(thanks to Matthias Paul for defending and expanding that article)

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