Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 4th Jan 2012 10:37 UTC
Internet & Networking So, this one slipped by completely undetected late last year (no, I don't grow tired of saying that). CNet reported that Google, Amazon, Facebook, and similarly large, anti-SOPA companies are mulling over the option of taking their websites off the air to replace them with an anti-SOPA message, asking users to contact their elected officials.
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by Lava_Croft on Wed 4th Jan 2012 11:27 UTC
Lava_Croft
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2006-12-24

It would be great if this would expand to as many websites as possible.

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RE: Expand
by Darkmage on Wed 4th Jan 2012 12:44 UTC in reply to "Expand"
Darkmage Member since:
2006-10-20

just those companies would do the job, if Google went down people would be panicking, Add Facebook to that and the backlash would be severe and ruthless.

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RE[2]: Expand
by WorknMan on Thu 5th Jan 2012 00:14 UTC in reply to "RE: Expand"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

just those companies would do the job, if Google went down people would be panicking, Add Facebook to that and the backlash would be severe and ruthless.


I don't care if the Google main search page goes down, but if Google interferes with the operation of my Android phone (such as Google Voice and contacts), I will not be a happy camper. Also, I'm sure a lot of businesses rely on Google services such as Docs, so I'm not sure that shutting it ALL down as some sort of political stunt would be very smart of them.

I do understand the importance of protesting SOPA though, so maybe they could just put a message on their main page or something, perhaps one of those 'doodles' they sometimes come out with.

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RE[2]: Expand
by rbrucemtl on Thu 5th Jan 2012 13:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Expand"
rbrucemtl Member since:
2011-06-29

God forbid people get cut off from there 1000s of fake friends and forget that there are other ways to communicate LOL

Sadly your probably right

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Also, January is generally boring anyway
by avgalen on Wed 4th Jan 2012 12:53 UTC
avgalen
Member since:
2010-09-23

Does that mean that you are thinking about reporting it on that day instead of joining the blackout and reporting about it the day before and after?

From somebody who has reported on SOPA so often and with the wording that has been used on this site I wouldn't expect a "I hope they pull the trigger". I would expect you to join the fight

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Onnozelschaap Member since:
2011-06-10

I agree. Join the fight, because many hands make light work.
This is a trenchwar, get in the trenches already.

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abcxyz Member since:
2009-07-30

If I am not mistaken, Thom is citizen of the Netherlands, which would make him, from point of view of US legislation and legislators a non-citizen (i.e. for every practical purpose a somewhat taller talking biped insect). In other words, I doubt he has any means of joining the fight with SOPA (unlike ACTA) except for reporting on it raising public awareness (which he seems to do quite well).

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laffer1 Member since:
2007-11-09

Yet, it still great affects everyone on the Internet. Websites like osnews can be taken down with a simple order from the US DOJ if SOPA passes.

As an american, I've been trying to get the word out on social media, emailed my representatives, pulled most of my business from GoDaddy, etc.

The problem is that many americans don't get what the big deal is with SOPA. They haven't bothered to read anything on it. I'm just not sure how to motivate people to write their congressmen.

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David Member since:
1997-10-01

OSNews is actually an American operation, Thom's well-known Dutchness notwithstanding, and if Google and Facebook go dark, so will OSNews. Maybe it will be like saying you were at Woodstock or there on the day the Berlin Wall went down.

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abcxyz Member since:
2009-07-30

OSNews, yes. SOPA can ripple waves worldwide, yes. Thom in particular can call his representatives all he wants and it won't help a squat, because they are not involved. He can stage a protest march and it won't reach DC (and even if it did, not their voters, so wouldn't care). There were other examples of US actions profoundly impacting the world people elsewhere (and in fact in the US as well) did not care for much, but being on the outside does not give you many options... except for raising awareness (and venting frustration in the process).

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I believe OSnews is hosted in the US and many members of the team are American, which kind of makes this point moot.

EDIT : Whoops... David beat me there !

Edited 2012-01-04 16:26 UTC

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by Hiev on Wed 4th Jan 2012 14:35 UTC
Hiev
Member since:
2005-09-27

Why ain't OSNEWS.com in that list?

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by Lennie on Thu 5th Jan 2012 00:25 UTC in reply to "..."
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I think most people on OSNews are already aware of the problem anyway... but sure, why not.

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Comment by Bobthearch
by Bobthearch on Wed 4th Jan 2012 14:53 UTC
Bobthearch
Member since:
2006-01-27

I read that as one bloggers wishful "prediction," not an actual probability. And it's not going to happen. Why?

First, money. How much would Amazon and others lose if offline for even one day? Second, the public backlash would be against the sites for voluntarily going offline. There'd be tens of millions of people looking for a Facebook replacement before the end of the first day. Amazon customers would simply shop elsewhere.

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RE: Comment by Bobthearch
by jackastor on Wed 4th Jan 2012 15:14 UTC in reply to "Comment by Bobthearch"
jackastor Member since:
2009-05-05

That would be my concern too, the reality is that alot of businesses rely on these online services, and they have to work to keep their customers so if google/amazon/whomever goes offline, by necessity they'll have to immediately find a replacement until those sites come back online.

Wouldn't it be more effective if they instead start a notification blitz so their services are still useable but the sites are plastered with notices? Google could increase the ranking of SOPA related links regardless of search maybe? Not sure if that would violate their own policies. Amazon could offer rebates on products if you sign an anti SOPA petition form or whatever.

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RE: Comment by Bobthearch
by Fergy on Wed 4th Jan 2012 19:17 UTC in reply to "Comment by Bobthearch"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

First, money. How much would Amazon and others lose if offline for even one day?

A lot less than what SOPA will cost in a week.

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RE: Comment by Bobthearch
by Soulbender on Thu 5th Jan 2012 02:17 UTC in reply to "Comment by Bobthearch"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

First, money. How much would Amazon and others lose if offline for even one day?


How much would SOPA cost them? A lot more and that's what it's about.
Sometimes, I guess, greed is good or it can at least work in the favour of what is good by coincidence.

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Revolution!!
by ashes_786 on Wed 4th Jan 2012 14:57 UTC
ashes_786
Member since:
2011-10-22

If this happened for just say 20 mins every Saturday morning until SOPA was shunned it would have a massive impact on users.

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O the Ironical Speculations of Life
by earksiinni on Wed 4th Jan 2012 15:16 UTC
earksiinni
Member since:
2009-03-27

Microsoft and Yahoo are also against SOPA. If Bing and Yahoo joined in with Google, who would win?

DuckDuckGo, of course.

</ironical_speculations_of_life>

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terrakotta Member since:
2010-04-21

Without google, bing nor yahoo, how would they find duckduckgo? :-) Not to mention no facebook for people to let the world know there are alternatives... etc..

Another solution would be a 'continue with ... (service)...' after an anti SOPA messages that's the same on all these sites, and then signed by all these sites.

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Too bad it could be possibly a field day for scammers and such (especially with all the major sites looking the same, and having "click to go further"), I guess ...ultimately being also used by SOPA supporters.

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It can't be true
by isaba on Wed 4th Jan 2012 18:16 UTC
isaba
Member since:
2006-12-30

It must be a joke, and now I am in a mess. Is today 01/04 or 04/01?

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RE: It can't be true
by shotsman on Wed 4th Jan 2012 18:24 UTC in reply to "It can't be true"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

For most of the world it is 2011-01-04 or 04-01-2011
Sadly for those 'merikans it is Jan 4th 2011.

As with feet and inches, they really do need t oget on message.

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RE[2]: It can't be true
by zima on Wed 11th Jan 2012 23:44 UTC in reply to "RE: It can't be true"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

For most of the world it is 2011-01-04 or 04-01-2011
Sadly for those 'merikans it is Jan 4th 2011.

Sadly, that's also the case on OSNews... (and many other websites, even when they have much more loose connection with the US; even when in URLs etc. they're sane / use ISO standards)

As with feet and inches, they really do need t oget on message.

"Just" point out at every opportunity that feet and inches are defined in metres for quite some time now... ;p
Oh, and those relics known as floppies, and the bays left after them & used for other purposes? Their size is actually 'round' in cm, the name just tells what's the closest in inches.
Makes for a fun head-spin, sometimes.

(really sadly it still spreads in aviation - heck, the avionics of our MiG-29s, in the process of being brought to NATO standards ...were converted from metres to feet; yes (NVM interoperability & safety) one can argue that a feet is a suitable base unit for autonomous landing systems and such, while a metre is a bit too big - but then, there's always decimetre)

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RE: It can't be true
by earksiinni on Fri 6th Jan 2012 02:53 UTC in reply to "It can't be true"
earksiinni Member since:
2009-03-27

I SEE WHAT U DID THAR

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Google, Facebook, Amazon Protest
by tomcat on Thu 5th Jan 2012 21:52 UTC
tomcat
Member since:
2006-01-06

World yawns.

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earksiinni Member since:
2009-03-27

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Edited 2012-01-06 02:53 UTC

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Comment by static666
by static666 on Mon 9th Jan 2012 17:25 UTC
static666
Member since:
2006-06-09

Would the mentioned companies go out of business in SOPA protest? Hardly so. Just another PR stunt. Cause profit > privacy. It's up to public to do something about that.

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