Linked by David Adams on Mon 9th Jan 2012 16:46 UTC
Features, Office In an enlightening article about the origin of the venerable vi text editor, Bill Joy reminds us that its quirks and qualities are all about the computing reality back in the 1970s: "you've got to remember that I was trying to make it usable over a 300 baud modem. That's also the reason you have all these funny commands. It just barely worked to use a screen editor over a modem. It was just barely fast enough. A 1200 baud modem was an upgrade."
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v This from 2003
by cmchittom on Mon 9th Jan 2012 17:13 UTC
RE: This from 2003
by Drumhellar on Mon 9th Jan 2012 18:21 UTC in reply to "This from 2003"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

Woo! A (more than) seven-year-old interview largely quoting remarks made thirteen years ago!

"OS," sure. "News," not so much.


WAAAAAAAH!
WAAAAAAAH!
WAAAAAAAH!

Since I hadn't read this article, and I have never even been to the Reg's front page, I would never have read this. But, it got posted here. Today. So I read it.
I've got nothing to complain about.

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v RE[2]: This from 2003
by cmchittom on Mon 9th Jan 2012 20:20 UTC in reply to "RE: This from 2003"
RE: This from 2003
by David on Mon 9th Jan 2012 18:54 UTC in reply to "This from 2003"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

I'm sorry for distracting you from all of the more up-to-date and timely Bill Joy/vi news.

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RE[2]: This from 2003
by brynet on Mon 9th Jan 2012 19:11 UTC in reply to "RE: This from 2003"
brynet Member since:
2010-03-02

Nobody really uses his implementation anymore, BSD's tend to ship with nvi and GNU-land likes ln vim emacs.

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RE[3]: This from 2003
by David on Mon 9th Jan 2012 19:41 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: This from 2003"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

True, but wouldn't you say that decisions that he made to make vi perform adequately over a 300 baud modem still flavor the modern implementations of vi today?

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RE[3]: This from 2003
by gumoz on Mon 9th Jan 2012 22:04 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: This from 2003"
gumoz Member since:
2008-05-15

I use his implementation. (I really do).

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RE: This from 2003
by Laurence on Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:02 UTC in reply to "This from 2003"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Woo! A (more than) seven-year-old interview largely quoting remarks made thirteen years ago!

"OS," sure. "News," not so much.

This story has recently had a revival on a number of news sites, not least Hacker News.

If you have a problem with old stories getting bumped, then perhaps you should take it up with the rest of the internet.

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Old news but I enjoyed it
by tanishaj on Mon 9th Jan 2012 22:34 UTC
tanishaj
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2010-12-22

In general, I do not like old re-posted news. I had not seen this article though and did enjoy reading it along with my Chinese food.

I would have to say TCP/IP is more important but I have not used NFS or Java a all this week. I used 'vi' (well vim) twice this morning.

EDIT: I realize that Bill Joy did not invent TCP/IP. He is credited with writing the BSD implementation though and this code may have worked it's way into Windows.

Edited 2012-01-09 22:38 UTC

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vi should be in every technician's tollbox
by tingo on Mon 9th Jan 2012 23:03 UTC
tingo
Member since:
2007-10-13

Ah, vi. Hard to learn, but good to know. Even today, vi exists on most systems. Only some of the embedded stuff (mobile phones) has exchanged it for nano or some other newfangled stuff.

Edited 2012-01-09 23:04 UTC

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Ah, vi. Hard to learn, but good to know.

A hard Editor is good to find. (Banana jokes deferred.)

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vim > vi
by tuma324 on Tue 10th Jan 2012 08:02 UTC
tuma324
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2010-04-09

vim forever

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Ahhh the days...
by Tuishimi on Tue 10th Jan 2012 14:44 UTC
Tuishimi
Member since:
2005-07-06

...I remember when I got a 9600 baud modem and thought "this is the life!" ;) Didn't use vi tho'... VMS had edlin...

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