Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Jan 2012 21:11 UTC, submitted by bowkota
Google Fascinating. After the whole Mocality story, we were greeted by another story of Google misconduct. This time, it's OpenStreetMap, which claims that users connecting from the same Google IP addresses in India as in the Mocality incident are vandalising OpenStreetMap data. Google has confirmed to ReadWriteWeb that two contractors acting on their own behalf while on the Google network were responsible. Another, less serious instance of Google misconduct, perhaps, but OpenStreetMap's handling of this issue does smell fishy.
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law of averages
by fran on Tue 17th Jan 2012 23:11 UTC
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Google is a BIG company and the law of averages mean there will be misconduct and such among some employees/contractors. This happens at every other company.
There is even established ratios for it in some industries.

Edited 2012-01-17 23:18 UTC

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RE: law of averages
by Hiev on Tue 17th Jan 2012 23:22 UTC in reply to "law of averages"
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Then, why trusth a company that doesn't have control of it self? And why should we believe that "acting on its own behalf" excuse? I don't believe them at all.

Edited 2012-01-17 23:23 UTC

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by bowkota on Tue 17th Jan 2012 23:41 UTC
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This and the Mocality incident are still peanuts compared to the kind of stunts Apple and Microsoft pull and have pulled

Care to elaborate on that? What Apple stunts compare to the recent Mocality and other incidents? Not even going to bring Skyhook into this.
I don't recall Apple involved in a similar situation.

Maybe what you meant was that Apple's actions in other matters have been just as immoral as the ones by Google. If so, then that's clearly a personal and speculative argument on your part and should be stated in your conclusion.

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RE: Meaning...?
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 19th Jan 2012 00:11 UTC in reply to "Meaning...?"
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What Apple stunts compare to the recent Mocality and other incidents?

Apple abuses software patents to stifle competition and bully other companies. Software patents are the biggest threat to the technology industry, and Apple wielding them like they do is despicable.

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RE[2]: Meaning...?
by Hiev on Thu 19th Jan 2012 00:46 UTC in reply to "RE: Meaning...?"
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No, you are deadly wrong, Apple is being a dick, but is a legally dick, what Google has been acused to do is illegal, so, no way to compare.

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RE[3]: Meaning...?
by Pro-Competition on Thu 19th Jan 2012 16:21 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Meaning...?"
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How about impersonating police officers to hunt a lost (not stolen) phone prototype? Does that count?

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RE[4]: Meaning...?
by Hiev on Thu 19th Jan 2012 16:32 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Meaning...?"
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Urban myth, it was rumor over the internet that was never proved.

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RE[2]: Meaning...?
by jared_wilkes on Thu 19th Jan 2012 02:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Meaning...?"
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Has anyone ever been fired for believing they have enforceable IP? Probably, I guess.

I would think a firing offense even within the company perpetrating the offense is generally worse than anything that you are opposed to based on personal philosophy/ideology.

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Google can do no Evil
by marsofearth on Thu 19th Jan 2012 06:42 UTC
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It is obvious that it was not actually Google that did these evil things.

It was Apple. I am sure we can all agree that Google hired, unknown to them, Apple Spy Contractors that then acted to vandalize and undermine Mocality, and OpenStreetMap and likely thousands of other business's.

Just look at the User Agent that was used... AppleWebKit!!!! Smoking Gun!

Apple is Evil, Google is Good, after all Google uses Linux to sell ads on mobile phones, and anything Linux is Pure and Good.


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Why Google ?
by Tractor on Thu 19th Jan 2012 12:57 UTC
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The Title of the news itself is pure hypocrisis, to attract attention, to increase clicks, to increase revenue. There you have it.

What a company *must* do when one of its agent does misconduct ?
1) Acknowledge the incidence, and distance from it
2) Search and find evidence and responsible(s)
3) Punish responsible(s)

In both incidents, all these criteria were met. That matters **a lot**, it's not a "mere detail", and should be entirely given to the credit of Google, to the point of changing the misleading title. Otherwise, there will be no difference with another company which refutes the event, hide and destroy evidences, and protect the culprits.

If a company cannot distance itself from the misconduct of some of its (undeserved) members, then a blog should be made responsible of any comment published in its pages, even if it distances itself from it, even if the comment is published during a short while and removed afterwards, No way, the blog is guilty forever for the misconduct of any temporary affiliate member. And as a consequence, the entire blog should be brought down.

I'm sure this example will talk more to the editor.

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