Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 1st May 2012 17:23 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Today we are excited to announce Tizen 1.0 Larkspur, including the addition of new complimentary components, as well as source code that focuses on enhancing stability and performance. We believe that these updates and new offerings improve the experience for developers. We are also continuing to work on improvements and additions, and we will be doing frequent updates to the SDK and source code. There are a few additional components that we plan to add in the coming weeks, and we will continue to fix bugs and add additional features."
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Comment by Luminair
by Luminair on Tue 1st May 2012 17:52 UTC
Luminair
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2007-03-30

linux does windows 8. so will we see valve hop on board something like this, sponsoring some hardware platforms? the will is out there to do each component, but nobody is pulling it all together yet.

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Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Tue 1st May 2012 18:17 UTC
shmerl
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2010-06-08

That's not so interesting yet. When first open (hackable) devices with Tizen will arrive - that would be something to celebrate. So far it's rather vaporware, without devices.

Edited 2012-05-01 18:18 UTC

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RE: Comment by shmerl
by tessmonsta on Tue 1st May 2012 19:16 UTC in reply to "Comment by shmerl"
tessmonsta Member since:
2009-07-16

Yeah, I have to agree. The SDK has some nice points, but the emulator feels clunky. Given that it's based on HTML5 tech, I naturally think of webOS and Enyo -- which are far more mature than Tizen.

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Tue 1st May 2012 19:32 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

My point was, whatever the software - without devices, it's not going do much. And if the system will push open devices to the market (where one could easily install alternative distros like Mer/Nemo/Plasma Active etc). it'll naturally help Linux advancement on the mobile.

Edited 2012-05-01 19:32 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by lenrek on Tue 1st May 2012 20:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
lenrek Member since:
2005-07-07

My point was, whatever the software - without devices, it's not going do much. And if the system will push open devices to the market (where one could easily install alternative distros like Mer/Nemo/Plasma Active etc). it'll naturally help Linux advancement on the mobile.


Checkout the Tizen-Associate http://www.tizenassociation.org/en/

There are backing from some major corporations, but at the moment, major push is into Android. Though, if there is going to be a real device, it would properly come into Asia market first.

I would discount Tizen so soon yet.

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RE[4]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Tue 1st May 2012 20:38 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

I know they are backed. Meego was also backed, and devices never came (besides N9 effort). So as I said - until devices will starting coming, this won't help much.

Edited 2012-05-01 20:38 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by lenrek on Tue 1st May 2012 21:45 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
lenrek Member since:
2005-07-07

I know they are backed. Meego was also backed, and devices never came (besides N9 effort). So as I said - until devices will starting coming, this won't help much.


N9 is/was great, the problem is not Meego, the problem is Nokia. They just "give up".

From a developer point of view, your statement don't make sense to me. I need to see what kind of development tools/SDK out there to figure out how serious I should take on a platform.

For a project that still in its infancy, a release of version 1 of SDK is a good sign that this project is getting serious. At least, they (as the people in Tizen) are serious about it.

I don't think Tizen is expecting a consumer end device soon, but for developers, I suspect some are trying it on existing Android (Linux) devices. If you expecting new devices that run mainly on Tizen, you would have to wait. This is expected from project that just in its current stage.

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RE[6]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Tue 1st May 2012 22:12 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

From a developer perspective, I'm interested in advance of conventional Linux on mobile (not Android, but X/Wayland based). What prevents it at present is severe lack of devices (or you can say drivers/open kernels). Such cases as N9 and upcoming Vivaldi/C71 are rare exceptions so far. Whatever flavor the OS will be wrapped in (Tizen, Mer etc.), if devices will be open allowing easy swapping of the mobile distros and drivers would be possible to update - it's already great for developers. That's why I'm not so excited about Tizen updates, since nothing was said about devices coming. However Vivaldi progress are really good news.

Edited 2012-05-01 22:14 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by shmerl
by cyrilleberger on Wed 2nd May 2012 07:54 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by shmerl"
cyrilleberger Member since:
2006-02-01

N9 is not even running meego, it is running maemo 6, branded as "MeeGo/Harmattan", the plan was to move the UI layers to a full MeeGo after the N9.

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RE[7]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Wed 2nd May 2012 15:29 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

N9 can run Meego however (i.e. Mer based Nemo, which is Meego today). In theory Nokia planned to gradually switch to Meego proper from Maemo 6. But the ill known MS deal stopped them from moving in that direction.

Edited 2012-05-02 15:33 UTC

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Tizen API
by dsmogor on Wed 2nd May 2012 09:33 UTC
dsmogor
Member since:
2005-09-01

So far Samsung doesn't emphasize native Tizen APIs at all. On the other hand if they were serious about HTML5 as app platform they would have long joined forces with Mozilla (unless Google have explicitly made such a deal impossible).
So either they're are not ready porting Bada APIs to or they are busy replicating Android operating environment on top Tizen.

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