Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd May 2012 16:17 UTC
Legal I love it when ancient proverbs come to life. If you can't compete, litigate. Right, Nokia? It's suing HTC, RIM, and Viewsonic in the US and Germany over 45 FRAND patents. The world is so predictable, and the technology world even more so. Ever since Microsoft got its claws on this company, its morals and values have been going downhill.
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Comment by zizban
by zizban on Wed 2nd May 2012 16:22 UTC
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Didn't Nokia see what happened when SGI hired an ex-MS executive? He sold off all the good patents and rolled out uber expensive Windows NT machines before bolting the company for MS once more.

The same fate awaits Nokia.

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RE: Comment by zizban
by acobar on Wed 2nd May 2012 18:35 UTC in reply to "Comment by zizban"
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Until we have a way more severe accountability for publicly traded companies nothing will stop the top executives to pursue their own goals, i.e. make money in a short time period irrespectively of what would be the best interest for small shareholder and employees.

In a time when most of us have our retirement fund on shares from companies we work on, even as part of income, the top executives should be the first to have all their money on front line to honor any loss their decision would trigger.

I am not advocating government supervision, they are already bad enough trying to provide public services, only more severe laws to discourage some selfish business man to walk on lines they should not.

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RE: Comment by zizban
by nej_simon on Thu 3rd May 2012 09:49 UTC in reply to "Comment by zizban"
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I remember him. He also killed PA-RISC and HP-UX when working at HP in favor of Windows on Intel.

Guess who got the patents from SGI btw?

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TheVerge says these aren't FRAND.
by MollyC on Wed 2nd May 2012 16:29 UTC
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"The patents in question makes these cases slightly different than Nokia's now-settled litigation with Apple, which involved several standards-related patents that were required to be licensed under so-called FRAND guidelines; filing lawsuits over FRAND patents has become a hot-button issue under serious international scrutiny. At the same time, Nokia has a slightly harder road to proving that HTC, RIM, and Viewsonic are infringing these patents, and it's possible they can easily be designed around — HTC has been able to design around several of Apple's patents as that case progresses."

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Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Wed 2nd May 2012 17:22 UTC
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Looks like a mix of hardware and software patents. I won't comment on hardware patents claims, but using software ones is definitely a sign of Nokia's degradation. Not a surprising sign though. Partnership with MS was a much bigger sign.

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Better compare to SCO?
by bnolsen on Wed 2nd May 2012 17:24 UTC
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I'd almost liken nokia now to SCO which was used to front end legal attacks against MS's competitors.

It doesn't seem like Nokia's core business matters to them anymore. Samsung, LG, HTC, etc. seem to all be constantly making changes and releasing and exploring multiple products to keep a feel of the market, allowing them to change direction quickly if need be.

Nokia seems to have put on blinders and have gone full steam ahead, market be damned. Elop pretty much doubly harpooned Nokia's own core business making huge announcements showing zero flexibility. And what they have to show for it is a plummeting share of one of the the fastest growth markets worldwide.

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RE: Better compare to SCO?
by No it isnt on Wed 2nd May 2012 18:29 UTC in reply to "Better compare to SCO?"
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HTC aren't MS's competition. They make a few Windows phones and pay loads of extortion money for MS patents.

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RE[2]: Better compare to SCO?
by glarepate on Thu 3rd May 2012 17:47 UTC in reply to "RE: Better compare to SCO?"
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HTC aren't MS's competition.

But they are virtually Nokia's only competition within the wPhone niche. Between the two of them they have something like 92% of all sales since so-called "7.5", actually 7.10, was released. And Elop's announced strategy is to take sales from the other handset makers in that niche with the goal of increasing product margins after capturing market share.

LG is volunteering to go on hiatus. It would appear that HTC is being encouraged to compete less.

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Comment by Gusar
by Gusar on Wed 2nd May 2012 19:30 UTC
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This makes me so very sad. I was all Nokia for a very, very long time, only stopped using my N80 because of a hardware defect. Some in my family still use Nokia phones.

So yeah, very sad to see how far they have fallen.

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RE: Comment by Gusar
by shmerl on Wed 2nd May 2012 20:42 UTC in reply to "Comment by Gusar"
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It's not very clear from this what exactly those software patents relate to. Android or not for example?

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A Finn's opinion
by Dekonega on Thu 3rd May 2012 09:42 UTC
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Nokia has become a disgrace for all of us.

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When they came for Apple...
by mkone on Thu 3rd May 2012 22:31 UTC
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2006-03-14 one cared, because Apple "deserved" it.

Now they come for HTC, and...

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